It is a mystery!

Whoa… weird. Nintendo had the foresight to include DS Lite-only features in Mario Kart DS… crazy. If there were some really cool Lite features, that would make for quite an incentive to pick up a Lite.

Dude, you raped the video codec. It keeps stopping.

I doubt there would be unlockable stuff. DS lite is still a DS. Where as GBC added color.

You sure it doesn’t have anything to do with your Mario Kart being NWFC activated on one DS as opposed to another? You’d have to try it on a fresh Mario Kart that’s never been played before.

Digg it!

DOM, the Wi-Fi connection has nothing to do with it. Mario was saying “Yahoo” both before and after I played Mario Kart DS with a Nintendo Wi-Fi connection.

I was the first to ask the guy who brought this up so I ask you all again,

“so the DS lite basically triggers a hidden program?”

Well, what’s your opinion to this?

And in response to DOM’s post, maybe it just has to be on another DS. Maybe it doesn’t have anthing to do with the lite. Some one should try this experiment on two DS Phats and on a DS Phat and DS lite.

Maybe it is the gba gameslot cover .. if you look it does have a chip.

Anyone have the Mario Kart DS red bundle? I remember starting up my cousin’s red DS that came with Mario Kart, and it had a different startup sound.

Are you sure it wasn’t just a newer version of the game? Such as the few different versions of Ocarina of Time??

Could be the cover… Try taking it out and trying it!

Well you could try to boot it up without the GBA cover, to see if that theory is correct..

Removing the GBA slot cover have no effect whatsoever, and online-ready DS and DS lite have different greeting, like shown in the video. I highly doubt WFC has anything to do with this.

As for game versions, I used the same game on different systems, same result.

This is true it seems with some DS Lites but my JP version still gives me Yahoo!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMaATdWzdpE

I was thinking about this and my conclusion is this, so what?

I don’t really care if it has a different sound when it starts up. It could just vary from system to system like with Strongest Hylian’s example.

In response to my own post, it probably won’t trigger a hidden program, but I hope someone tries booting up the game on two DS Phat’s and then a DS Phat and a DS lite (just to see what happens).

Oh and for the experiment, you have to boot up a game with a system where neither of them has been used online before.

Nope it still said Here we go without the cover..
But i noticed something wierd…
WHen i got it home it never had the nintendo logo under NINTENDO DS above the warning health and safety warning .. but Now it does.. I Dont know why.. I will try different things to figure that out.

OH i think i got it.. When you dont have a ds game in it doesnt have the NINTENDO logo under nintendo ds! and when you do have a ds game in IT DOES have the nintendo logo under nintendo ds!

You can get the same effect by booting a Mario Kart DS Game Card with the homebrew “track hack.”

As far as I know, no one’s investigated what actually causes it.

i think that seams to be the case but its strange it DOESNT WORK EVERYTIME

mumurphya:
The logo is there when you have a DS game inserted, and not there when there is none.

Yes i think thats it..

On my DS lite, Mario says “Yahoo”… and I used it only on a DS lite.

Thats really wierd i never noticed that before

Here is a pic of the different screens With/Without Nintendo logo for anyone who cares XP

DS Lite without nintendo logo
http://tinyurl.com/zywud

DS lite with nintendo logo
http://tinyurl.com/gf3n5

I just dont remember this happening on the original ds.

Do you guys think that there’s anything like this on Animal Crossing? There might be an extra item or something and Animal Crossing sounds like a game they might change with the hardware.

Yup, the red DS has the “Here we go!” intro also. not sure how significan’t it is, but it’s certainly interesting

Hey maybe there are two different firmware versions for the ds lite which makes some ppls mario kart say yahoo and some say here we go … maybe thats why Thomas’s ds lite it still says yahoo.

I think it might be random.

My enamel navy DS goes “Here we go!”

“Yup, the red DS has the “Here we go!” intro also. not sure how significant it is, but it’s certainly interesting.”

Oh, that’s VERY significant to this. If the red (yet Phat) DS has this too, then there’s no new “thing” to the DS lite (other than the visually obvious).

There are alot of different firmware versions for the original ds … there is a test to that you can do that tell you what your ds firmwar is. its quick and easy here, [BTW if you dont know what firmware means its the operating system and if you dont know what operating system is .. you need help XP]

DS firmware versions
The firmware version of a DS can be confirmed using the Pictochat Test: [1] [2]

1/Insert a DS cartridge into the DS.
2/Turn on the DS, open Pictochat and enter room A.
3/Remove the cartridge. [i think they mean ds cartridge]
4/Both screens should now be filled with a solid color.

Version 1: The DS will freeze
Version 2: Grayish Blue
Version 3: Dark Green
Version 4: Yellow
Version 5: Magenta
Version 6: Blue
iQue: Dark Green
DSLite: Purple
This was from>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS_homebrew

BTW the test does work.

Still i wonder why there is a chip inside the gba slot cover. Maybe flash memory or something for the upcoming opera browser

mumurphya:
It’s an empty PCB, nothing more. The PCB is there to make it “clip” properly.

I think the firmwares explain the Here we go and yahoo change.
if im not mistaken the red ds is the newest firmware {version 6) I think nintendo put that easter egg in with the red ds since it was the mario kart bundle. But you never know about Nintendo. Thats why they are the best

Its still fun to speculate XP

My DS does the same thing when I boot it up with the offline track patch. (not all the time)

Yes, it is possible to detect the different firmware, but the sound mario makes has nothing to do with it.

This story is embarassing. Are you going to start posting every little thing your hear or read without checking first?

I did the test on mine and it came as a green so it dose work

:D I have a version one fat DS according to Wikipedia.

I’ll test Mario Kart on my lite when I get it tomorow.

Hey HOW DO YOU BOOT UP AN OFFLINE TRACK PATCH???… the only games i can hack are animal crossing and nintendogs thanks to action replay and aibo hack

On my “phat DS” I turn it on and hear the “yahoo!”. Then I turn it off and restart it and hear the “Here we go!”.

So your theory sucks. It’s just random.

I did the test and I have ver.3
I also did another test:
-booted the DS with NOTHING inside (DS/GBA)
-chose PictoC. roomA
-inserted DS game (nothing froze)…and then took it out (this time it didn’t freeze!)

Just thought it might be interesting to know.

1. My red DS doesn’t show the Nintendo logo without a DS game inserted.
2. Booting Mario Kart DS, Mario always says “Yahoo!”
3. I have Version 4 (Yellow) firmware.

mumurphya:

The Start-up Nintendo Logo thing does the same thing on the phat too. I never noticed that before though…

1) I have Version 1(According to Test)…
2) Nintendo logo DOES NOT show up when no game is inserted.(So… When there is no game inside, only the DS logo is on the screen.)
3) Mario greets me with… (engine noise) “Yahoo!”

1) blue ds shows green version
2) Nintendo logo DOES NOT show up when no game is inserted.(So… When there is no game inside, only the DS logo is on the screen.)
3) i hear the YAHOO

“Now playing - Trauma Center”

WOOOOOOOOOOOOT!

It’s not all that uncommon for nintendo to put hardware recognition in some of their games. In the LoZ, Oracle games, you could find a shop that only opened on a GBA even though the GBA wasn’t even on the market at the time. Another game was the Game and Watch Gallery 2, at the bottom of the screen it would have the GB logo, a GB pocket logo, or a GBC logo depending on the system it was in

I’m pretty sure the Nintendo logo is part of the ROM header on the game card. If there’s no card, it won’t display. It’s very similar to Game Boy cartridges. There’s no Nintendo logo when you turn on a GB or GBA with no cartridge. Or if the cartridge is dirty, the logo is garbled.

Holy crap, it’s like we’re talking about the meaning of life or somthing here. Who cares which one he says, those are Mario’s two most common phrases!

^That explains that!

Anyway, Version 6, and I get the yahoo on my silver DS. It also does this on my brothers red one.

It’s not random. I have the DS Lite (US version). Mario says “Here we go!” EVERY time.

He says Here we go EVERY SINGLE TIME on the ds lite. I have the 1 version of the original ds and it says Yahoo im thinking maybe above firmware 4 it says Here we go. or maybe even above firmware 3. We can figure this if we have a bunch of people test it.

That’s pretty neat. I didn’t know about that firmware version trick. My Lite is purple.

F*ck this pansy sh*t, in ten years when we plug it inside a magical DS2 capable of transporting awesomeness through time and space he’ll probably just open his big yap up to say his third catchphrase: it’s a-me Simon Belmont.

I’m very drunk. (The worse thing is that what I’ve just typed is a lie).

I noticed this a few days ago lol, I always show people the differences between the DS’s with mariokartDS in both at the same time, they ask why mario says a different thing…
I shouldve submitted this news

It’s random on mine. If I repeatedly restart my DS, I eventually get the “Here we go!” instead of the more common “Yahoo!”

Direct link to video (XviD): http://lm2005.googlepages.com/mkdslite.avi

It is probably supposed to be random, but since computers can not do random very well, they rely on a number called a “seed”. Often, user input is used to generate the seed, since a human is more “random” then a computer. This seed could be based on the amount of time it takes you to do something, or where on the screen you touch, etc. So try varying times and places to see if that makes any difference.

Just to let you all know, i have the red ds mario kart bundle, and with the version test, i get magenta (version 5) and my mario kart says Yahoo!

I had a rom that did this…nearly a year ago.

It’s just detecting that something is inserted into the GBA slot. Put a GBA game into the old DS, and boot up, and he will say “Here We Go”

it only happends if you have US mario kart + US DSLite
if you import your DS mario will say Yahoo and the engine sound.

mumurphya> holy crap, you’re right. the GBA cover does have a chip.

4cr!!!!!!!

YOU NEED MORE JOURNALISTIC INTEGRITY! THIS ISN’T NEWS.

I’m never coming back to this site EVER AGAIN!!

European Blue DS NEH11XXXXXX - “Yellow” - (version 4) firmware

Booting with MarioKart in DS Slot - Nintendo Logo on Top Screen
Booting with other game in DS Slot - same

Always says ‘Yahoo’ - have tried various combinations of nintendo / non-nintendo (Mariokart SC and Sonic Advance 2) GBA carts in GBA slot as suggested by Dave, but still don’t get to hear the ‘Here We Go’.

As suggested will try and listen out for it as it probably is random, and i’m wasting my time *sigh*

this may have been resolved, but i’m not reading all these damn posts.

2 MKDS cards: 1 has all GP races done and the new title pic, other has regular title pic. both have been used online.

both say Yahoo! on the phat and both say Here We Go! on the lite

This is not news.

Way to report CRAP 4cr.

what a **** site.

Wow, a whole lot of angry people on this post.

HERE IS THE GOD HONEST TRUTH FROM A VERY TRUSTWORTHY SOURCE, ME.

Mario Kart on Original, Grey, bought on launch day DS: Start the game up, during the rating screen “Vroom vroom Yahoo!”
Mario Kart on Orinigal, White, bought on launch day DS Lite: Start the game up, during the rating screen “Vroom vroom Here We go!”

I just did it to test, like seconds ago. So there you have it.

Umm WOW. This is so STUPID!

Listen up people! This is because THE FIRST TIME YOU PLAY MARIO KART DS YOU HERE THE “HERE WE GO” so obviously that is what you hear when you play mario kart ds in thel ite for the first time. It did this one the normal DS the first time you booted it up.

Derrrr!

according to that wiki test my DS PHat is a DS lite

It’s random. I have a Japanese Lite and for the first three boots it went “He-re we go”. On the fourth it went “Yah-hoo!”.

Just tested it on my DSLite, out of the 8 times ive loaded it, all ive heard was “here we go”.

@mumurphya

The Nintengo logo/no logo was also on the gba.

Man… I can’t believe people didn’t catch this already…
The game can do both sounds on any versions of the DS. It does not detect the firmware version of the DS, it doesn’t care. What happens is that if you unlock some more stuff, it enables mario saying ‘Here we go’ when the game starts. Otherwise, he will say ‘yahoo’.

I think it may be nothing more than Mario saying ‘Here we Go’ the first time Mario Kart is played in a DS system.

My DS (UK Pink with Version 4 Firmware) says ‘Yahoo’ on startup. My ister’s DS (UK Silver with Version 2 Firmware) has never had Mario Kart in in before today. On first play, it said ‘Here we Go’, and on subsequent tries, the message changed to ‘Yahoo’

So, I’ afraid - its nothing to do with hardware, it’s either that Mario says Here We Go’, on first play - or its totally ramdon.

I’m not too sure about that… I took the same game and put it in the Lite, to which I was greeted with “Here we go!”, and then took the SAME game and placed it in an old system, where Mario instead said, “Yahoo!”. Then I tried it again and again… With the same results.

@OLIVIER
I was just playing with my friend yesterday, and he owns a DSPhat and on his start up, you hear ‘yahoo’ even though he has played it for i say over 20 hours and has 2 stars next to his wifi username. But im not sure if that was a one off or permanent thing so i cant really verify for a DSPhat.

Maybe it depends on the kart itself rather than the firmware or the DS?

Sorry about the double post, but to those above who said that this wasn’t worthy of being called “news”… It’s not the fact that Mario says “Here we go!” thats important, its the fact that the DS Lite has the potential to see different (maybe big, maybe insignificant) features.

I loaded Mario Kart in my DS and the intro said “Oh No! Not Another Spin Of…”
hmmm

my australian mario kart ds game has a different menu screen but it goes goes “*rev revvvv* “here we go”. Dont ds cartridges have no reagion coding. it seems wierd t ohave a different menu screen for the aussie version than the american version, especially when it make no difference whatsoever.

Jacob are you comparing your screens to the ones in the video? Because I think the title screens in there were the ones unlocked when you pretty much beat everything. The standard screen for the American version is Mario in his kart kind of leaning forward with his fist out.

It is absolutely not only the first time you boot Kart that you get “here we go!”, and it’s also absolutely not random. I have played Kart extensively (unlocked everything) on my Phat, and it never said “here we go!”. Never once. Which is why I was so surprised and confused when I heard it when I first booted Kart on my Lite.

Since then, I’ve booted Kart on my Lite about twenty times, and every time it’s said “here we go!”.

So it’s not random, and it’s not only the first boot.

–
M

You know, guys, maybe I’m not the first to say it, but it randomly picks one of the two depending on some sort of internal thing that’s used in the Friend Code. Which of the two he says is random and determined by which DS you use, not whether or not it’s a DS Lite. In fact, if you transfer your online settings to a new DS, the new one will say the same thing as the old one used to.

lololololol!!!! You guys are hilarious! Its just a sound clip! Who cares?! BTW its random, sometimes its ‘Yahoo!’, other times its ‘Here we go!’ Nothing to do with the lite.

Tomorrow’s tabloid with have the headline “DS lite - Mario says ‘Here we go!’ in MKDS. You guys are like seeing a statue of Mary shed a tear, proclaiming its a miracle and later discovered its just a natural phenomena.

GREG:
Except that you’re wrong. I transferred my settings and my DS Phat still says “Yahoo”, but my DS-Lite, which has my Phat’s old settings, says “Here we go!”

–
M

Hi there, In my phat electric blue DS when MKDS boots, It clearly says:”Here we go”.Tried a couple of times,and it’s the same.

Hmmmm, or is it just that the game starts with random sound samples??

It’s says both on my phat DS so I think it was just random. It just says Yahoo more often than Here we go but it says both.

I have the gray/blue ds phat and a launch day Mario Kart, and it says yahoo every time. It did that with a new file and with everything unlocked. It also does says yahoo whether or not there is a gba game in the bottom slot. I’ll be getting a Lite soon.

OK, I have two standard NDS units with two Mario Kart DS game cards and both WFC IDs saved on the original DS units. I just purcahsed a new DSlite yesterday. I read about the Mario Kart DS thing this morning. This is significant because it means that developers can arbitrarily add or remove content just like they have done in past games (ie, Zelda: Oracle series played on a GBA), so stop debating the significance.

I started by booting the first MKDS game card in the DSl. I was greeted with the regular “Waa-hoo” standard startup sound. I rebooted and it changed to the “Let’s-a-go” alternate startup sound. All subsequent boots were the alternate sound. I thought something must have been saved on the game card after the initial boot, because 30-boots later I could not get it to repeat the standard startup sound though it would do it every time in the standard DS. I decided that this could be easily tested with my second MKDS game card so I inserted it into the DSl. Surprisingly, it played the alternate startup sound every single time. If a setting was saved on the first boot, it must have been saved to the DSl itself!

There is one other possibility: A botched random number generator code. The MCH in the Intel i850 P4 board or the i830 uses a new kind or random number generator that is truely random, but all previous programs and most future programs would continue to use user input to determine random numbers. A calculation is started when execution starts. Barring any outside influences, the calculation results should always be the exact same at the same CPU cycle. This is why many SNES and Genesis games (Tetris Attack, Dr. Robotnic’s Mean Bean machine, etc) require you to press a button to continue before a playfield is set up with random data. Your input stops a looping counter that feeds the value to a random number generator to start creating different results. If the game dumped you to the random play field after turning on the power, even with a predefined delay, it would always be the same. Now that games and consoles have built in time-keeping clocks, there is a different point of input that can be fed to a random number generator: The exact time you turned the power on. I’m pretty sure that the DS firmware has a code library for games to use including things like random number routines (games probably simply request a random number from the system software and then they receive it). Mario Kart DS may be receiving different results from different firmwares because of a logic error in the program code that results in it being not truely random. There, I said it.

INTERESTINGLY: if you load Mario Kart DS on a DS Lite flashed with flashme 7, mario says “yahoo”. I don’t know if loopy will release a new version of flashme based on DS Lite firmware, but my guess is probably.

Same thing happens on mine.
Original DS: “YAHOO!!”
Lite: “Here We Go!!”

Very interesting.

Crazy! When I inserted my Metal Gear Acid Umd into my DS Lite, it says “IT’S SHOWTIME!”

Really Tony?

I squeezed a giant Ninja Gaiden NES cartridge into my DS and it bootup saying “Tecmo will make bikini volleyball game 10 years in the future!”

I can’t believe so many game news websites report this stupid hoax !

Everybody who had played LAN session on MarioKart should now that it’s total random. Phantasm on Nintendo are going to far this time. Mario is no God, he can’t go back in time and do crazy things.

Wait a minute, isn’t he in the blur behind DaVinci’s MonaLisa ??!

Why are so many people getting pissed off at this thread. if little easter eggs or hacks don’t interest you then don’t frickin read it… I thought this was really interesting, esp the firmware test.

^ Chris that was f***ing hilarious!!

it rooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooocccccccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkk kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkksssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it rocks

GAAAAH!!! Raving idiot named Thomas! Urge to kill…rising…

Would it matter if Mario said “Mama Mia! You gotta DS Lite!”? No, it wouldn’t. This is not news. It’s not even real. Stop talking about it.