by Mitch - 05.08.06

When it comes to E3, we’re not going to limit ourselves to JUST Nintendo! Come on! So, I’m going to be viewing the Sony conference live and noting interesting points that come about.
The Big Breaker Recap!
You wouldn’t believe it, but Harrison and Ken worked together to build the suspense near the final 10 or 20 minutes of the show. They revealed the controller, which looked exactly like the PS2’s Dual Shock 2, but with a twist - you guessed it, gyroscopic control, just like our very own Wiimote. This reporter’s not saying a word about Sony’s technology habits, but make your own decision: did Sony swipe the tech after Nintendo showed it off, or are we all overreacting?
A controller 3D render, perhaps?
Final PS3 Renders and the Like, Courtesy of Joystiq
News below the break.

7:23 PM - GAF Liveblog - “Still queuing. At least the weather is nice! We’ll let you know if we spot anyone else really interesting looking really bored.”
7:33 PM - Audio tests start on live feeds. Starting soon.
* <.Kuma> sony raided the cutout bin at the local FYE4:31 PM - gaminghorizon - People are starting to take their seats, beginning with the ever-privileged video crews.
7:45 PM - Stereo audio coming through GameSpot’s feed. Still no start.
7:52 PM - Kaz Hirai comes on stage through the GameSpot feed.
7:54 PM - “PS3 is NOT a successor, but rather an upgrade to their market.” Is a powerful machine, but “technology is an enabler”. Real content lays with the consumers.
Meant to be the companion device in your living room. Seamless interaction with all Playstations.7:56 PM - GAF - November launch. Now Kaz is talking about PS2. 100 million units shipped (Sony loves shipped numbers instead of sold). 42M of that is North America. Go us! Sony plans on shipping another 10 million units of PS2 this fiscal year. 1 billion PS2 software units have been shipped. Again, no sell through numbers.
7:59 - PSP is a CULMINATION of handhelds, says Kaz. 12 million PSPs shipped. “No sign of slowing down.” 47.3M games shipped.
8:01 - New games shipping through the year for the PSP - Sports games, Ape Escape Minigames, Gangs of London, PlanetPSP (? Working Title?) Killzone Liberation, B-Boy (fighting game? breakdancing??) Loco Roco, Syphon Filter Dark Mirror, TalkMan translation game — mostly ports and PS2 caliber games.
8:03 - Discusses new Greatest Hits for PSP: ATV Offroad, Ape Escape, Hot Shots Golf, Twisted Metal and Wipeout Pure. “Sold 250 thousand or more units.”
8:05 - Lots of new stuff. RSS Video, GPS, lots of ritzy add-ons. brand new download stations, which have never been done before ever. ever. never before. “PSP’s Graphics be craaazy!”
8:08 - Stupid video playing of paid-off actors talking about how much they love the PS2/PSP
8:09 - PS3 will support removable HDD, and all kinds of flash medias, apparently. Supports true 1080p HD. I’ve heard it all before, Kaz. Hey, there’s that Spiderman font again.
8:13 - Some bogus report reports that 25% of US households will own an HD display. Who made those reports? HDD will ship with the PS3, for downloading & game preformance. Shiny little PS3 beast pokin’ around the stage behind Kaz. Looks exactly the same as last year’s. PS3 launching as BLACK color.
8:15 - Kaz blabs, and Phil Harrison takes the stage amid applause.
8:17 - Harrison blabs about some business speak, and introduces the creator of Grand Turismo, Yamuchi & translator. Nobody likes Harrison.
8:18 - Grand Turismo prototype designed for E3, completely in High Def. He looks like he’s gripping a pretty standard PS2 controller. Everything’s “boosted in resolution & quality.” The video isn’t necessarily full HD, explains Yamuchi. “First time a home console shows an uncompressed digital signal.
8:20 - The game looks exactly like the one I played on my 1990 Magnavox. Maybe it’s just that I’m not there.
8:22 - The game’s roughly 3 times the information you’d see on a regular HD TV signal.
Based on the PS2, the difference is 12 times. Strange numbers.8:24 - Able to navigate from the selection to racing in about 2 or 3 seconds, claims Yamuchi, due to Harddrive’s cache ability.
8:28 - Grand Turismo HD video still. He’s driving a neat little car through the grand canyon. Nobody seems to care.
8:28 - Wide shot of the Grand Canyon. Amazing detail, with each person in the crowd rendered with their own movements. Excellent light refraction. Makes me suspicious.
8:31 - The world of GT, with broadband capibilities, will not ‘expand’, but ‘explode’. Yamuchi leaves the stage, and the bald guy strokes his ego as he leaves.
8:32 - Harrison introduces a card-based battle game, supposed to appear tomorrow at the show floor. Richard Marx, eyetoy creator takes the stage. “Eye of Judgement” developed in Japan, shown. You place cards in front of the camera, and you get to interact and move it around with your actual fingers. Imagine, Yu-Gi-Oh in real life, with monsters poppin’ out of them and everything.
8:34 - Harrison blabs about a special demonstration card, turns out to be a fire-breathing rubber ducky. Nobody really laughs because Harrison isn’t funny.
8:35 - Kaz comes on back, and the audience breathes a sigh of relief. Addresses online strategy. “Online and Network like A/C in a car!”, says Kaz. Believes it will become standard. Online is as essential as air, says Kaz’s rhetoric. Kaz pitching a communication network, cites MySpace. Player profiles, rankings, messaging, friends lists - ripping off Xbox Live.
8:37 - Completely free of charge. Everything.
8:38 - Kaz pulls out a PSP, and is showing off a new Ridge Racer game - seems to be a PSX port, or an emulation perhaps. The audio sounds insanely dated. Letterboxed, too, but screensize can be changed.. Kaz sucks at videogames, he says.
8:40 - Kaz falls to the beast of Microtransactions. Many payment methods, INCLUDING prepaid cards (Called the Playstation Card). Exclusive information will be given away.
Kaz leaves, and Phil Harrison comes back. One man cries outloud.8:41 - Harrison shows off a gigantic iTunes-like microtransaction store. Stores are actually inside the games - specifically in Sing Star, which is being demo’d. You can apparently buy new songs. HD content available inside the BluRay disc. Sing Star (ps2 and ps3 versions) will be playable at E3.
8:43 - No pricing strategy announced yet for Sing Star songs. Survivor was priced $0.00, as appropriate.
8:45 - Game Republic developing a game, Bill Rich gives it a quick demo. Game is based on Japanese history: Genji. Based around ancient battles (I called it! Check the roundtables!). Many, many models on screen at once. Realtime weapon change, realtime character change. Combo system very open, with few defined combos to begin with. Bill Rich blows at playing video games.
8:48 - The game looks very slow, with plenty of particle effects. This is no Dynasty Warriors. Bill Rich is struggling to even demonstrate attacking a gigantic crab monster. Everything seems insanely familiar, almost like it’s been done in a Zelda game. Game’ll be playable at E3, in full.
8:50 - PS3 has a formula one game. Nobody in the audience looks suprised, and many look angry. PSP is being used as a real-time, synced wing mirror. Japanese people apparently have four hands.
8:51 - Chief design ninja introduced, showing off Heavenly Sword at a HD kiosk. Neta looking gladiator game, with jumping moves & slow motion like Prince of Persia or God of War. Enough bloom effect to power a small nation. Chick slams some dude’s nads. Harrison pipes up, and the world falls silent. Game will be playable at E3.
8:54 - Female ninja with red hair throws a hat like a frisbee and splays an enemy. Sweet. Game includes a reaction system like Resident Evil 4, Shenmue, or Prince Of Persia.
8:55 - More games shown on a video: A cool-looking war game with dragons and knights (titlted: LAIR); Gritty crime game with a prerendered video (titled: Getaway); African Safari shown off, animals grazing and walking around - no real gameplay (titled: Afrika, working title); Hot Shots Golf game - same models, but they’re shinier (titled: Everybody’s Golf); A dark fanatsy world action game (titled: Monster Kingdom).
9:00 - Harrison introduces two brand-new titles: An absolutely gorgeous prerendered shooty guns-a-lot crime game titled Eight Days, and a shooty-mc-guns-a-lot tomb raiding game by Naughty Dog.
9:05 - Ted Price of Insomniac takes the stage.
9:05 - Insomniac working on an alternative history game, named Resistance, based in England. “Intense, bleak and brutal,” claims Price. English army fighting against an unknown alient force. Takes place around before World War II. Seems interesting, sort of like Return to Castle Wolfenstein mixed with Doom.
9:07 - <.Kammo> STOP WITH THE DAMN GUNS DAMMIT
9:08 - Soft applause as Price stops playing Resistance. Apparently, supposed to have 32 player online play. Playable at E3.
9:10 - Harrison takes the stage, and the applauding dies immediately. Harrison ends playable games section of the show. Harrison leaves, Kaz taks the stage, heavy applause.
9:11 - Showing off third party games now. Assisin’s Creed video shown, Gundam: Mobile Suit makes its presence known with a quick video, Codeassault: Arms, Ridge Racer 7 teaser, the next Brothers in Arms (Hell’s Highway), Tekken 6, Sonic the Hedgehog , Virtual Tennis 3, Virtua Fighter 6, and John Woo’s game Stranglehold.
9:16 - Gamespot’s feed dies. Reggie thought responsible.
9:20 - The EA guy is showing live footage of a test area in NBA Live 07. Dual Shock 3. Where’s the boomerang? Controller and models are apparently more responsive?
9:21 - “Oooh! Nice dunk!” - EA guy is officially the whitest man in history.
9:22 - EA boasting its “super-sophisticated” ‘U-cap’ mo-cap system, which took quite a while to produce. First test of it is Tiger Woods, with a user-controlled model of smiling Tiger Woods. Very impressive. Shadowing is amazingly realistic. Tiger Woods will be manipulated live at E3 at the floor show.
9:25 - Fight Night, Need for Speed: Carbon, Metal of Honor: Airborn, Army of Two, Madden NFL 07 being slaved away on by EA employees all over the world. EA rep. mispronounces Kutaragi’s name. Nobody says anything.
9:27 - Final Fantasy 13 split into two: 13 and Vs. 13. Video shown, and is prerendered gorgeousness on a platter like always. Stars a girl toting guns! Totally futuristic, with a brand-new active battle system. Music is awesome, like Kingdom Hearts II. No sign of the final Final Fantasy.
9:28 - They’re proud to show off Metal Gear Solid 4, and apparently already running on a PS3 devkit. The crowd roars with excitement. Kojima’s storytelling is awesome as always. Many familiar characters: Snake, Otakon, Meril, the blond dude, Liquid Snake, Old Man Snake. Shoots himself in the head on screen.
9:33 - Ken takes the stage with his crazy English. He’s the most exciting person tonight, unfortunately. He has one more secret. “Back in 94, controller was quite unique., and everyone was amazed by its control in a 3D world. We are going to enhance its … ability. […] ” He’s planning on bringing it into the 4D world.
Final controller is just a wireless dual shock controller.
9:35 - After a small silence, he shows that they added a GYROSCOPIC CONTROL. The Internet’s nerds explode with anger.
9:36 - Harrison adds a duck to the techdemo, and claims that the controller is lighter, and apparently “intuitive.”
9:37 - Ken thanks the audience for supporting them and leaves the stage.
9:38 - Warhawk from Incognito modified to show off the controller. Didn’t Nintendo do this same thing with Metroid Prime 2?
9:40 - after Dylan Hawk continues playing Warhawk for a moment, the player seems to be seriously struggling with shooting objects and also flying straight.
9:41 - Harrison goes back to Kaz, and he explains how the PS3 ‘transcends imagination.’ Recaps everything that the PS3 can do: judge movement, play any media, steal ideas and cook meat.
9:42 - PS3 available in two plans - 20GB and 60GB drives. Nov 11., 2006 in Japan, 59,800 YEN retail. 60GB has an open-price for retailers. American launch on Nov 17, $500 for 20GB, and $600 for 60GB. Europe and Austroasia, Nov 17, 20GB 499 euros, 60GB 599 Euros.
Wrapping production soon. 2 million units shipped during launch. 4 million units by the end of the year, and 6 million during Q1.
9:44 - Lists the enormous list of big game studios. Nippon Ichi is on board! The usual PS2 games will be on the PS3, and new ID will show up. PS3 is a complete home entertainment system. Playable games at E3, for the first time.
9:45 - Kaz leaves the stage, and the crowd begins emptying out to some strange music. A woman’s voice comes overhead, telling people to enjoy playable PS3 games.
The feed ends, and that’s it. Bye guys, thanks for reading!
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it should start any min now!
dragon - 05.08.06 7:07 pm
nice.. i’m waiting for it to start myself. i look forward to your musings!
Jim Squires - 05.08.06 7:08 pm
FFXIII + MGS4 footage plz!
dragon - 05.08.06 7:11 pm
They are Probably Going to Try to Steal Nintendo’s Thunder……..Aka, Come out With a “Dual Remote, That has Sensors that detect which way you move it” Or Some crap like that……..Remember how they Pulled their Controller(Batarang) When Nintendo showed theirs?
The Wii Will Be Better then the PS3(George Foreman Grill)!!!!
Dark Mithan - 05.08.06 7:14 pm
One things for sure, I really hope they change that controller design. They said before that that wasn’t the final design of it, so I hope they reveil a different one when the press confrence starts in the next few minutes.
Wasn’t it supposed to start like 20 minutes ago?
Tim-E - 05.08.06 7:15 pm
Nothing here either… The feed must be messed up.
Trav - 05.08.06 7:18 pm
“Please, for the Love of all that’s holy - Please don’t abuse that F5!”
Rofl
Dark Mithan - 05.08.06 7:18 pm
blasphemy!
but seriously, games is games
JodyAnthony - 05.08.06 7:18 pm
I’m waiting on it as well..
Dejital - 05.08.06 7:19 pm
I personaly only care about Nintendo’s Keynote right now…………
Dark Mithan - 05.08.06 7:23 pm
*F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5*
Now what was it you said?
HI - 05.08.06 7:23 pm
what about the 360?
Im hurt.
x360 - 05.08.06 7:24 pm
/me holds down F5 oops this isn’t irc…
Nintendofreak - 05.08.06 7:24 pm
You said F5………BUT YOU NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THE REFRESH BUTTON ITSELF……….MUHAHAHAHAHA
Dark Mithan - 05.08.06 7:25 pm
Where can I go to view the conference?
brennan_ - 05.08.06 7:25 pm
You can watch it at Gamespot.
http://gamespot.com
Tim-E - 05.08.06 7:27 pm
It’s started! Hurrah. xP
Dejital - 05.08.06 7:31 pm
Good Music!
Nymo - 05.08.06 7:34 pm
Indeed, they played Blur!
Dejital - 05.08.06 7:40 pm
This music pwns
Nintendofreak - 05.08.06 7:41 pm
I’m playing New SMB while listening to funky music and staring at a Sony logo. Fantastic!
Dejital - 05.08.06 7:43 pm
See The Show At http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3live.html
Click The Player
According To Joystiq ( http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/08/engadget-and-joystiqs-live -coverage-of-sonys-playstation-3-e3-ev/ ) :
4:36 - The line is moving. According to Euro Gamer, Hideo Kojima is “stuck in the queue.” Should have something for ya soon …
4:42 - We are sitting down, getting ready to go.
heh, Kojima Was Stuck In Line..
Nymo - 05.08.06 7:44 pm
F5? i use ctrl+r …is that ok? ;-p
eza - 05.08.06 7:45 pm
Does anybody have the mockup picture of Ken Katarugi (sp?) holdin g the Wii remote for the PS4 in 5 years? If I had it, i’d post it right now : )
VideoGamerJ - 05.08.06 7:51 pm
Just A Little Tip For You All, Check This Out!
http://www.portagame.com/index.php/2006/05/08/hey_kids_it_s_ the_e3_show
Nymo - 05.08.06 7:51 pm
It’s Starting!
Nymo - 05.08.06 7:53 pm
Wow, the president of Sony America looks just like the PlayStation logo. xP
Dejital - 05.08.06 7:54 pm
Ooooo, I see him! I want to see the cont! - LAG!
Zeroplus - 05.08.06 7:55 pm
What do you guys think about the rippage-offage?
Mitch - 05.08.06 9:47 pm
mitch your pretty mean …. i like it
lord kuragari - 05.08.06 9:48 pm
Sony steals another idea
Alex - 05.08.06 9:48 pm
I hope they get sued.
Mr. Amish - 05.08.06 9:48 pm
Dear lord! 500 bucks for the PS3. Must be the new controller jacking up the price.
Sam - 05.08.06 9:48 pm
WE HAVE BEEN TEH RIPPED OFF!!
Nintendofreak - 05.08.06 9:48 pm
rip off rip off rip off.
mreddy1 - 05.08.06 9:49 pm
i knew it was gonna be $500….wow, but a $600 model? and how could they rip off nintendo like that!?
fischju - 05.08.06 9:49 pm
How grossly unspectacular. And 500 bucks? Thanks, but no thanks. I’ll get one eventually, but not for that much, guys.
Musashi9x - 05.08.06 9:49 pm
500 dollars? well, guess i’ll have to take up my job as a vietnamese prostitute again. it’s hard, cause i’m not vietnamese.
mreddy1 - 05.08.06 9:52 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
FAILURE
Marv - 05.08.06 9:52 pm
The only thing that seemed cool in the presentation is the visual card reader. I remember Bill Gates showing off something very similar to that (but with any generic business card) when he came by our school during his Universities tour last November. I wonder if the PS3 camera will be able to pick up generic cards too.
Sam - 05.08.06 9:52 pm
$500 minimum for a machine that basically carries the hopes of Sony. I’ll stop gaming before I spend $500 for a machine to play the games.
The only thing they weren’t able to rip off from Nintendo or Microsoft was a somewhat reasonable price.
Store Clean-up - 05.08.06 9:54 pm
At first I was annoyed at the total controller ripoff on Sony’s part, but it seems like that PS3 controller can only sense which way it’s being tilted, while the Wii controller is supposed to be able to sense depth as well as tilt, which puts Wii at a distinct advantage. Also, the shape of the PS3 controller will make it more difficult to take real innovative steps since you’re pretty much locked into holding it a certain way. I can’t see how being able to twist the controller around will help them make gameplay more intuitive, especially in FPS games so far, although their racing games and flight simulation games might see some interesting gameplay changes.
Amaranthine Night - 05.08.06 9:54 pm
Wow….I’m speechless.
Sony, that’s the lamest move ever.
Not only is that price rediculous and the controller completely unoriginal, but they had to show like 20 different games during that press confrence and the only interesting ones was Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy XIII.
Tim-E - 05.08.06 9:54 pm
Mitch said:
“What do you guys think about the rippage-offage?”
THOSE JERKS!!!!!!!!!!
that and the fact that Atelier games Will be coming out on the PS3………..Waaaaaaaaaaah!!!
Dark Mithan - 05.08.06 9:54 pm
I CAN’T BELIEVE THAT SONY HAS ABSOLUTELY NO PRIDE!!! sony rips off nintendo…AGAIN!!!
chooch - 05.08.06 9:54 pm
I just BOYCOTED SONY.
They completely alienated teen age players who dont have money to spend.
SONY - MOST DISHONEST COMPANY I’VE EVER SEEN.
They’re so dirty, the bum who roams my neighboorhood feels clean around them
Paulo - 05.08.06 9:55 pm
the motion sensing from the three different accounts of the keynote I was reading sounds tacked on and nothing nearly as groundbreaking as Wii. 6 degrees of movement isn’t much to work with in comparison to the full range of motion sensing available on the Wiimote.
The thing with the playing card game and augmented reality is the same type of thing that was rumored to be on Wii.
The prices are RIDICULOUS, but at least they include HDD’s in every unit unlike XBOX360. My live-in boyfriend has an XBOX360 and I’ll be getting a Wii, but count us out of the PS3.
see3pio - 05.08.06 9:55 pm
haha.. them ripping off ninty tells us that nintendo is RIGHT. they’ve recognized the innovation, and have accepted it. SONY copying Nintendo has legitimized their controller, and made it more ‘everyday’. I know a lot of people in japan that are just going to buy the next Playstation, just because of the brand name - (brand is a very very powerful force) and when they see the PS3 with the same control innovations as the Wii - they won’t think of it as such a weird thing.
This could be Nintendo’s pull for hardcore gamers - i mean, even the hardcore gamer’s system now has the same function.
if it works well on the PS3, it’ll work DAMN good on the Wii.
dk - 05.08.06 9:56 pm
I have a gyroscopic mouse that can be used in the air. It’s pretty cool, and sitting on my couch waving it around to surf the web gives a warm-and-tingly hint of how much fun Wii will be. But it also makes it very clear why Nintendo chose not to use gyroscopic technology for the Wiimote: It’s a bit clunky when you’re trying to do fine motion. Careful, precise movements with the gyroscope are pretty difficult. It doesn’t feel fully intuitive the way the Wiimote is always described. Which isn’t to say that Sony hasn’t employed the best gyroscopic technology possible, but I highly doubt it’ll be anything more than a clunky gimmick compared to Nintendo’s. Incredibly, incredibly irritating that they stole that idea - but I saw it coming. The biggest flaw in Nintendo’s revolutionary approach is that it relies solely on the controller - there was nothing to stop Sony or Microsoft from simply producing a similar controller for their systems. Ah well, I’m sure tomorrow Nintendo will blow everyone away, and maybe even have something to say about Sony’s little surprise.
Rob - 05.08.06 9:57 pm
Unless it manages to have some “killer” launch titles (like Resident Evil 5 or Devil May Cry 4), I’m going to hold off on getting one at launch. The price is a bit high and I’m still weary of Playstation hardware since the buggy PS2 launch.
Apfhex - 05.08.06 9:57 pm
it seems to me that sony have not only ripped off nintendo but ripped them off badly.the new ps3 controller is two handed and watching it being used it appeared to be very awkward only making gameplay my more complicated.just my opinion
eoinmonty - 05.08.06 9:59 pm
The conference was shit, the games we’re mostly shit, and the high light was when the Ripped off nintendo again.
I feel so… violated.
Alex - 05.08.06 10:00 pm
Game developers for PS3 will be focusing on graphics, not how to make it work best with tilt sensors. I think VERY few developers will take advantage of this functionality.
And besides… what can you do with just a tilt sensor? Ball rolling games, and DUCK TILTING games… thats about it. I guess you could do woething like Tony Hawks Downhill Jam… But like, you’re not going to see “Madden 2007: NOW WITH TILT SENSORS!!!” advertised anytime soon (ever).
I wish I could skip school tomorrow to watch Nintendo’s (and Microsoft’s) conference live… but I guess I’ll just have to watch it later.
(And plus- I already skipped today because Prom was last Friday.
)
HI - 05.08.06 10:02 pm
Boo. Poo on Sony. Horrible conference.
brennan_ - 05.08.06 10:02 pm
*woething = something
(sorry, I can’t type
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HI - 05.08.06 10:03 pm
How dare they
Die Sony Die
c1gar - 05.08.06 10:04 pm
Really boring press conference. I’m over the controller, they did a poor job and won’t compare to the Wii.
robotplague - 05.08.06 10:05 pm
The only thing that i wanted to know about the sony conference was if they would finally try to rip off nintendo. this is enough, i hope nintendo can sue those s@ckers.it makes you feel sad, they get the best place in the market with a total lack of ideas or innovation.they only make cheap rip-offs with bad components quality at gold price. i really wish people had brain enough to see that sony always gives second-class products, they make it look cool and they sell it like they were the best thing ever. sorry, but today i’m really pissed after reading the conference.
DARK WARIO - 05.08.06 10:05 pm
Sorry PS3 fans, Nintendo will still win the day, victory starts in only 14 or so hours…
Greg - 05.08.06 10:06 pm
What a surprise! Sony is run by a bunch of ‘tards. Oh well, with the PS3 more than twice the price of a Wiivolution, you’re going to get what you pay for (overpriced buggy crap).
amanaplan - 05.08.06 10:06 pm
The best part is that the gyroscopic controller won’t be very useful at all in Sony’s favorite genre: shooters. While the Wiimote can be moved all over the place, the way you would move a gun in a FPS, the gyroscope can only do that in a limited fashion, and would mostly be useful for tilting and rolling. It’s going to be a barely-used gimmick. Funny that they started out the press conference by bashing Nintendo saying “PS3 isn’t about gimmicks.”
Rob - 05.08.06 10:08 pm
This is the Lamest thing I have ever seen a Company Do!
Dark Mithan - 05.08.06 10:08 pm
How surprising. This does take some of the ‘one of a kind in the market’ thing nintendo had going for it with the wiimote, but really, the Ps3’s capabilities are much more limited then Ninty’s.
I still want to poop on their beds.
Grupstra - 05.08.06 10:08 pm
I think I’ll be buying a motion sensing controller that works far better costs less than $500. In fact I think I’m finally done with Sont products, rootkits and stealing crap is just to much for me.
pete - 05.08.06 10:09 pm
Well, it’s not like the totally ripped nintendo off, and it’s not like the brand, the hype and the expectations where bigger than the games themselves, and it’s not like I could not possibly find enough materia to fill out 60 gigs of space for a Videogame machine, and it’s not like I actually have to sell my soul to Satan himself to buy the damn thing, and it’s not like I’m going to pay 65$ to watch…play a game. Who knows?, maybe the PS3 IS my man.
Luis - 05.08.06 10:11 pm
your over-reacting! thats 6 degrees vs 360 degrees and depth.
although a blatant rip, its saying “hey nintendo, you feckers are right” nintendo needs to exploit, exploit, exploit, and drop a bomb tomorrow….
alex - 05.08.06 10:13 pm
[sarcasm]Wow, who would’ve have guessed.[/sarcasm]
Way to go, Sony.
Lynx - 05.08.06 10:13 pm
I think Sony’s controller isnt gyroscopic, just 2 axis tilt sensors, using some weight and gravity field. It can detect how it tilt, thats pretty much it.
nick - 05.08.06 10:14 pm
It doesn’t Matter how good The Tilt is on sony’s Controller……….The Fact that They Ripped off Nintendo…..No matter the Quality Is enough for anybody.
Dark Mithan - 05.08.06 10:16 pm
Unfortunately the games are SO absurdly impressive, that both Nintendo and Microsoft will have to play their power cards (SSB, Zelda, Metroid, VC/Halo,XBLive and Arcade) just right if they want to leave a good impression to the press the fans and the devs, it’s war.
Luis - 05.08.06 10:18 pm
Hope Nintendo Shows the VIDEO when Iwata said they didn’t showed the controller due to competitors copying them. Too bad it’s for twice the money… and too bad for gaming since they won’t really put to good use the nintendo controller in multiconsole releases.
vakerorokero - 05.08.06 10:19 pm
I don’t think the games are impressive. They can do great stuff, but all t5he demos are using normal controller not the new interface…
vakerorokero - 05.08.06 10:20 pm
$600… Their egos have just gotten way too big. I’m glad about the price, they are killing themselves.
handofg0d - 05.08.06 10:21 pm
Sony. Has. No. Integrity.
At All.
llamapalooza87 - 05.08.06 10:22 pm
I can guarantee Reggie is already in the process of rewriting his Sony trash talk. It’s gonna be too sweet.
Steven - 05.08.06 10:23 pm
That was so boring!! I was waiting and hoping for new information. The only thing we got is a price point, launch window and Sony showing they were afraid to risk change with the boomerang controller so they tried to steal Nintendo’s thunder.
Oh well at least they did a crap job and everything they announced was already in analyst reports or leaked information from around the net.
Lame conference….
Geoff Baker - 05.08.06 10:23 pm
“they are killing themselves.”
Indeed
Dark Mithan - 05.08.06 10:23 pm
Nintendo revealed the Wii-controller in October 2005.
I think that Sony developed their controller ideas earlier than
october 05.
kesesose - 05.08.06 10:24 pm
True but their idea for inmersion is all about the visuals, that’s what their selling, that’s what they’re spending big bucks in, and that’s what makes us drool, like it or not, ripped or not those games look amazing and one can’t help to want them just because of that. Sad but true.
Luis - 05.08.06 10:24 pm
about the impressive games, you’re gonna see that most of the videos shown are not in-game images. of course they’ll assure they are (they have done this too many times before). so a lot of people will be cheated. the games will look like a xbox360 game, we’ll see it soon.
DARK WARIO - 05.08.06 10:24 pm
what it comes down to here is that you still cant play TENNIS on ps3. you cant use the motion to play a FPS intuitively and there is so far no support for this feature.
the controller is not innovative its just an attempt to downplay nintendos huge advantage. the ps3 cost a lot of $$$ i wouldnt mind paying it if i was a dedicated sony fan but as a nintendo fan first, im not going to pay more than 300 for a ps3. i think nintendo will have the biggest market share because its affordable.
now we can wait for the other reason we all want a wii, the great first party nintendo games. i think nintendos confrence will easily surpass sonys rather boring one.
minotoro - 05.08.06 10:25 pm
Steven said:
“I can guarantee Reggie is already in the process of rewriting his Sony trash talk. It’s gonna be too sweet.”
Don’t get too errogant though…..unless you want to sound like this:
Stupid Brainless fool on Engadget said:
“256. Christ - it didn’t take long for all you whiney-assed Nintendo fanboys to come out from under your rocks, did it? The Nintendo controller is not unique - it’s been done before. And therefore there will be no lawsuit, just healthy competition on how it’s used in games. It’ll be very interesting to see how long Microsoft take to bring out their own.
As for the price. Good - I’m glad it’s provoked the “I’m not paying that” crowd… it means more stock available for the real gamers like me!”
Dark Mithan - 05.08.06 10:26 pm
son. of. a. BITCH!!! I cant believe that sony would ripp off nintendo like that. In japan wouldn’t they lose face or something? this is the kind of thing that breeds fanboys. I, myself am very pissed that I cannot even conguate my sentences correctly and I very much want sony to lose lots of money and for my sony headfones im where to snap in half so I can sue.
I mean if sony had made some something INNOVATIVE that was better than the Wiimote I WOULD buy a ps3 and be happy but I guess ACTUALLY use thier own Ideas would be (God forbid!)would be stooping to nintendos level.
shiftup72 - 05.08.06 10:27 pm
Kesesobe said:
“Nintendo revealed the Wii-controller in October 2005.
I think that Sony developed their controller ideas earlier than
october 05.”
Batarang yes, Rip off Controller NO!
Dark Mithan - 05.08.06 10:27 pm
Good thing I never planned on getting a PS3, my PS2 suits me just fine, as there are still many games I’d like to play on it. Oh and considering that ramen noodles are a delicacy and the best thing at restaurants is free water, there’s no way I’d pay $500 for a console (and $50-$60 for each game).
Harukio - 05.08.06 10:28 pm
I look forward to Nintendo very politely insulting them in their press conference. I expect clever wording on their part
pete - 05.08.06 10:28 pm
wow, with a price point like that, we’ll be guaranteed to see one in every home. [/sarcasm]
whoever said above that this will likely be nothing more than a gimmick nailed it on the head; “six degrees of freedom” has been available to pc gamers for years and never caught on. I suspect for two reasons: 1) they are hard-core nerds and afraid to try anything new 2) making useful use of motion sense information is hard, hard, hard.
“Entertainment Center” my ass. I could care less about all that. I want to have some fun. Sony, you’re dead to me.
OMG PONIES - 05.08.06 10:28 pm
Pete said:
”
“I look forward to Nintendo very politely insulting them in their press conference. I expect clever wording on their part
I Expect that too.
Dark Mithan - 05.08.06 10:31 pm
Sony really messed up with this announcements, and they did it at the worst place, at the worsta time, I mean now that Nintendo is growing so muchwith it’s machine and it’s ideas for expantion, Doesn’t launching a 600 bucks beast sends a “Not for everyone” message to all of those who want to play or keep playing?
Luis - 05.08.06 10:31 pm
everything has a begining and an end. well it seems like sony’s beautiful days are over.tomorrow is the time for nintendo to rule again.
DARK WARIO - 05.08.06 10:35 pm
Why is Sony copying Nintendo?! GOSH!
Snickers - 05.08.06 10:35 pm
ROFL @ Sony. Why?……………../sony
Jenova - 05.08.06 10:36 pm
they planned to swipe it all along. that rediculous boomarang thing they had is what you get when Sony tries to think for themselves and come up with an original idea.
but its just a gyroscope. it wont function the same as the Wiimote. Sony screwed up just like i thought: ripoff the controller just enough so its differant, but not enough that it will work as well.
kojo87 - 05.08.06 10:37 pm
Sry for the miss grammar but i was in a rush.
Teddy P. - 05.08.06 10:39 pm
exactly Teddy! MS and Sony are only alive because of their other devisions keeping them afloat. MS lost money on their Xbox! Nintendo is the only one making profit. now who really won that console war? hmmmm…
kojo87 - 05.08.06 10:39 pm
Kojo87 said:
“exactly Teddy! MS and Sony are only alive because of their other devisions keeping them afloat. MS lost money on their Xbox! Nintendo is the only one making profit. now who really won that console war? hmmmm…”
Glad To know people Know their Facts
Dark Mithan - 05.08.06 10:41 pm
this is a VERY smart move for sony. Nintendo doesnt have an exclusive feature for its console, so now its a smaller gamecube. also XBox is the only one without motion sensors
shiftup72 - 05.08.06 10:45 pm
Sony stole the concept, but not the technology..I don’t think they realize that…
NPC - 05.08.06 10:45 pm
Those Sony assholes totally copied the nintendo wii’s gyroscopic control!!! they are probably going to say they did not want to copy nintendo, but they freakin’ did!!! Those no good, copy nintendo’s great idea, steaing SONY MOTHER Effers!
Daniel Cetina - 05.08.06 10:46 pm
At the end I wound up with some ideas taken directly from MS and Nintendo and little innovation on their part. That card EyeToy thing could potentially be awesome, however. That was a good spot.
The whole remote thing was just sad, I felt. However, it definitely just doesn’t seem as in depth. Yeah, it doesn’t need a sensor, but essentially it only knows how you tilt it. Doesn’t the Wii remote know things such as depth, how far it is from the screen, etc.? In addition, I feel like something like that lends itself better to such hand movements better than a traditional controller.
It’s just funny. I think the d-pad needs to be fixed. The thing needs real triggers, like Xbox. It needs to be more ergonomic. There was a lot of room to improve it, but instead all they did was take a card from Nintendo and claim it entirely as their own.
The fact that it seemed very early in Warhawk and was only otherwise in poor looking tech demos really stresses what a last minute decision that was.
Tony - 05.08.06 10:47 pm
Nice presentation, Sony. Didn’t they think that if you were to walk up on stage, shake a wireless controller around and call it ‘intuitive’, people would be fairly pissed off?
Clay Handley - 05.08.06 10:49 pm
This is absolutely hilarious. I love how all the Sony nerds are suddenly changing their tune and motion sensors are suddenly not so gh3y anymore. Too bad their system will cost at least $300 bucks more than ours and the motion sensing is the half-arsed rip-off version.
I, also, cannot WAIT for Reggie’s skewering of Sony and their typical “me too” copycat ways. Rip ‘em a new one!
Pikachelsea - 05.08.06 10:50 pm
i’m really furious sony tried to rip off the best controller ever created. but if you look at their conference…well it’s been the worst presentation of a new generation console ever. nothing interesting at all, the games we all knew they had, a price that nobody with brain would pay, an ugly piece of hardware… they focused on trying to imitate the real star of the show and they failed…tomorrow things will be very easy for nintendo, only one of their first party games will have more value than the PS3 with all its games.
DARK WARIO - 05.08.06 10:51 pm
Wii. will. rock. GO NINTENDO. [at least mirosoft isn’t doing anything to rip-off nintendo’s wiimote. (I love typing WIIMOTE. Type it with me, W i i m o t e. Oh yesss. That’s the stuff.)]
Daniel Cetina - 05.08.06 10:52 pm
I personaly think , that nt sony but nintendo made a huge mistake with their new consoles.
I mean how can you build up a system entirely by its controller.
Sony did everything right (at least they are planning to), from internet content and comunity, to games and “gadgets” like eye toy and the controller. Everything but the PRICE.
But will pay it for MGS4.
blablabla - 05.08.06 10:54 pm
BLABLABLA, entirely by its controller? you’re very wrong man. it’s all about the games, you will see it clear tomorrow.
DARK WARIO - 05.08.06 10:58 pm
Actually, looking at the controller shot, it looks like L2 and R2 can be pressed in quite a bit… more like triggers on Xbox and GCN. I was wrong there, it seems.
Tony - 05.08.06 10:58 pm
To make it clear: Nintendo’s controller uses SENSOR technology, Sony’s uses a gyroscope. Gyroscopic controllers and devices have been around for a long time. Nintendo’s sensor technology can detect a LOT more than the simple tilting and turning you’ll be doing with Sony’s little gimmick.
It’s good to see the mainstream press is reacting with a collective shrug to Sony’s conference - check out Engadget’s ho-hum response to the controller (which barely even mentions the gyroscope), and DailyTech’s wrap-up which hardly drops so much as a blip about the controller’s gyroscope. It’s already clear this is NOT going to steal any of Nintendo’s thunder in the controller department.
Rob - 05.08.06 10:59 pm
Well , dark wario, then why do you all rave about sony steeling the friggin controller(which i don*t agree with).
blablabla - 05.08.06 11:00 pm
BLABLABLA, because they tried to ripp off another one’s idea.that’s all.
DARK WARIO - 05.08.06 11:03 pm
The gyroscopic technology in the PS3 controller is great news, especially if its poorly implemented; this will help if to become a standard as well as give developers the option of developing for the Wii (…) and the PS3 (And likely the 360 later on down the road), rather than for just a single system.
Poor implementation on the PS3would cause people to flock to the Wii versions of their games rather than their shoddy chinese knock-off counterparts on the PS3.
The Sony conference illustrates everything that’s wrong with the current games industry, I would be so happy if Sony failed miserably (Microsoft would be a nice bonus, I’m sure they would have added in a tilt sensor at launch if they’d had the time).
c--b - 05.08.06 11:06 pm
Man, the cheaper SKU doesn’t even have WiFi, HDMI, or a Memory Card Reader.
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/060509ae.pdf
Tivac - 05.08.06 11:14 pm
I didn’t really care about the PS3, but now I really REALLY hope it fails. Cunts can’t just make millions out of ripping off Nintendo…
666 - 05.08.06 11:17 pm
http://sony.gamerfeed.com/gf/news/4815/
2k3?
Oh shi—-.
outlawed - 05.08.06 11:18 pm
:) and what now , fanboys.
(btw i own nintendo and sony products , so please don’t hit me)
kesesobe - 05.08.06 11:23 pm
Sony just tried to make the most powerful machine so that they could theorhetically get 15 years of production time out of it and hopefully break even financially. The PS1 sold for 10 years and so will the PS2, if not more.
It’s just a sad cry to try and do something good with the system with the whole copying the “wiimote”~
I won’t buy a PS3 until it hits $200 anyways and by then I’ll have had a lot of fun with Nintendo in the meantime. oh and fvck Sony and their lack of everything…
dj - 05.08.06 11:24 pm
where there not rumors of a revmote like thing as a gamecube attachment. not to mention kirby tilt and tumble released in 2001… OH SHE followed by a T
frank - 05.08.06 11:27 pm
Isn’t that thing what Warioware Twisted had inside? That game was pretty good. Sony can make it work great and obviously won’t compare with the Wii, but I guess that enough for Sony’s crowd since they see things like these as gimmick and I’m sure most of them are throwing up after hearing Sony is doing this. I hope they won’t miss that rumble thing they stole from nintendo last generation, due to that $$$$$$$$ lawsuit they lost.
The Dual Shock Gained the Arms but lost the Legs.
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/705/705887p1.html
vakerorokero - 05.08.06 11:34 pm
“and what now , fanboys.”
Your console still costs at LEAST $500 bucks, and doesn’t have depth perception or any true motion sensing technology like the Wii. Oops
Pikachelsea - 05.08.06 11:35 pm
*insert random profanities here* SONY!
You…..most literally suck.
neuterman - 05.08.06 11:37 pm
“I won’t buy a PS3 until it hits $200 anyways”
Shit! that’s a long time!! that’s like 2013 or something like that!!
Also, I believe the one without HDMI won’t be able to get high resolutions, so This is like a Souped up XBOX.
vakerorokero - 05.08.06 11:38 pm
A few angry comments!!
I can play with my PS3 next-gen controller already! It’s called WarioWare twisted and it doesn’t cost me half a grand!
ed - 05.08.06 11:39 pm
Yeah, seriously Sony, I was laughing at your lame looking games before, but now I’m just overall pissed.
Michael - 05.08.06 11:40 pm
Can we keep the swearing to a minimum guys? Or at least try to disguise it.
I for 1 think this whole debacle is a complete crack-up. Sony just gave me several more reasons to continue my trend of never buying their products again. 0 since 1999.
Sammy12 - 05.08.06 11:42 pm
“Can we keep the swearing to a minimum guys? Or at least try to disguise it.”
Yes. Really, guys. It’s getting a bit out of hand here. Calm down. Read about the differences of the controller on IGN. The world isn’t going to blow up just because Sony put tilt-sensors in their controllers. The Wii will provide much more immersive gameplay.
Lynx - 05.08.06 11:46 pm
What’s wrong with swearing?
dishliquid - 05.08.06 11:47 pm
“What’s wrong with swearing?”
Honestly? In my opinion, it makes the the people on this board look less professional, and more immature.
Lynx - 05.08.06 11:53 pm
why are you all so anti sony you sound like rabid fan boys. the controller is not anywhere near wii’s so what are you all so upset about. its a pretty low blow sort of move to try and do, but its for the good of games. although i dont see many games implementing this feature on ps3…
nintendo fans are officialy the most embarassing, im a nintendo fan but you dont hear me saying “im never going to buy something from sony again!”
you guys feel threatend or something by sony, relax nintendo always makes the best GAMES.
minotoro - 05.08.06 11:59 pm
How funny is it that their “big reveal” turned out to be a half-done implementation of what Nintendo announced 6 months ago? Nintendo’s “big reveal” tomorrow would have to be pretty lame to not top this. Color me optimistic.
I haven’t seen too many people mention that all of a sudden the “connectivity” most people felt was so lame when the Gamecube and GBA did it is now apparently a big selling point.
Let me chime in that I don’t play games professionally, and therefore have no interest in appearing to be professional on a gamer board. Nonetheless, I think that dropping the F-bomb does a lot less to impugn someone’s professionalism than half a dozen exclamation points or “NOOOOOOO” or “Die Sony Die” will.
raindog - 05.09.06 12:05 am
uhhh…. release date????????
Boots - 05.09.06 12:08 am
I’m confused about one thing. Dailytech.com says their online service is “completely free”.
However, I don’t remember them mentioning playing games online as being free. They talked about messaging, downloads and buying new content being free, not playing games. Xbox Live already does this for free in its Silver Mode.
So what about playing games? That’s what costs the $50 a year on the 360. I didn’t hear Sony mention this it all, so did I miss something?
Tony - 05.09.06 12:08 am
“Recaps everything that the PS3 can do: judge movement, play any media, steal ideas and cook meat.”
Hehe. I want that on a t-shirt!
ed - 05.09.06 12:10 am
Yeah, Isnt that great? Rofl hahaha
Dark Mithan - 05.09.06 12:11 am
MINOTORO
You may have misunderstood me. I stopped buying SONY products years ago due to being continually let down by shoddy workmanship, cheap components and false promises. Their corporate practices and stances on homebrew (firmware update 5000 anyone?) bring them down in my eyes.
I consider myself to be a huge Nintendo fanboy but I don’t make uninformed or rash decisions about anything. I also don’t feel threatened by Sony, I feel sorry for them.
Sammy12 - 05.09.06 12:13 am
“If you can attach very high-resolution, low-cost video cameras you can deduce some quite interesting things about their users. We’ll be able to extrapolate eye movement and gestural recognition, more complicated finger movement”
Great! With the new Eyetoy and the online service, Sony will know just what ‘finger movement’ I am directing their way.
Kamalot - 05.09.06 12:30 am
Actually i find Sony products of the highest quality.
and I also find that Sony is ass-rapeing ninty and should die.
shiftup72 - 05.09.06 12:32 am
Sony, you have done it again. Tisk tisk. I can’t put this anger into words very well. We all know that PS3 will out sell the Wii by millions ever year and in a decade no one will remember that the Wii was the first with motion, the mainstream will think that Wii ripped off PS3 within 3 years easy. I hope Nintendo can sue and win for BILLIONS, if they dont have some nice patients on this stuff they are crazy. At least we, Nintendo Fan Boys, will have fun and still be able to buy our medications.
bradtwitty - 05.09.06 12:49 am
Well they are no Steve Jobs.
Seriously, though the games are no doubt very nice in person, they all looked… the same online. The only game I had even any remote interest in was Metal Gear… and I am not even a Metal Gear fan so that is kind of impressive. Hmn I hope Nintendo’s presentation is better tomorrow.
sdsichero - 05.09.06 12:51 am
lol i bet nintendo is thinking: “‘Reveal your controller’ says the fans, ‘no one is going to steal your ideas’ says the fans”
seriously why does no one take nintendo seriously. you all laugh when nintendo doesnt reveal Mario 128 and say that nintendo is too paranoid.
and can some PLZ explain what they mean by 6 degrees!
shiftup72 - 05.09.06 1:03 am
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the Wii Controller is not gyro right? We’re talking the reason why the Wii costs so much is because of the controller, whereas the PS3, all the money is going into the system’s cell processor and bluray, its probably not going to be a very in-depth gyrosensor. Meaning, tilting left and right. Still, i’d like to be informed as I didnt see the show nor read the full transcript.
VideoGamerJ - 05.09.06 1:07 am
Seriously… It seems as though Sony hasn’t been preparing for this E3.
Everything’s still pre-rendered, the