by Vinnk - 01.03.06
Note: The following is the transcript of a segment included with this weeks Podcast. We realize that not everyone listens to the podcast every week but felt it was important to share. This is not Microsoft bashing nor a Nintendo fanboy rant. Read on.
There has been a lot of coverage recently about the failure of the Japanese Xbox 360. And those reports are very true. It is one of the weakest system launches in Japanese history, only topped perhaps by the Japanese launch of the Atari Jaguar. In my town there is only 1 game store that carries the 360. They were given 12 launch units by Microsoft and at the end of launch day they had sold only 1, and that was to one of the employees.
These articles are, of course, making the rounds of gaming sites. The comments I read on these sites often make me sick to my stomach. People are saying that the Xbox is not selling because the Japanese people are Xenophobic and will never buy foreign electronics. I have even read a few comments that say and I quote “Those Japs would never buy an American game system because they are still bitter about Hiroshima”.
Ok, first of all, those “Japs” are friends of mine. And I resent the slur. This isn’t even the worst comment I have heard on this issue. But the others are too vulgar or racist for me to repeat here. Why is there all this hate? Because the Japanese are not forking over thousands of yen blindly, that makes them xenophobic? I guess so. And now I will tell you what else these bitter, nationalistic Japanese are buying.

They are buying iPods like crazy. Japanese Apple stores sell more iPods per store than Apple stores in America. But wait! Apple is based in California. How can this be? Why aren’t they proudly buying their own, Japanese, Sony Mp3 players? Because Apple makes a good product that is in tune with what Japanese consumers like.
Starbucks is huge in Japan. These are everywhere. In just a few years Starbucks has made itself a fixture in Japan. They are always crowded with people. Japan had tons of it’s own coffee houses before Starbucks, but this was a company who adapted well to the Japanese market and was therefore embraced.
McDonalds. McDonalds can’t be doing well in Japan can it? The Hamburger and fries is clearly a western meal. Wouldn’t the Japanese shun it? No. McDonalds owns fast food in Japan. Japan has their own domestic burger chains like Mos Burger, Freshness Burger, etc. but they all bow before McDonalds. McDonalds knew that some of its tastes would not appeal to the Japanese so they changed their menus. Along with the standard Big Macs and fries they also have Teriyaki burgers, fried shrimp burgers, and other things for the Japanese pallet. They didn’t force the American tastes on the Japanese and thus, they thrived. Now look at the Japanese Xbox 360 launch lineup. First person Shooters, sports and car games. Games that sell really well in America but other than the car games are not to the Japanese taste.
Had they launched with RPGs, simulation games, party games, gambling games and fighters, they might have done a whole lot better. McDonalds changed their company for the Japanese taste. Microsoft tried to change the Japanese taste for their company.
But let’s keep going. Japanese people love Levis jeans and still pay a premium price for them. They also can’t get enough Coca-Cola. How can this be? All the major Japanese drink makers, Kirin, Asahi, suntory, etc. all make their own brands of cola. Why don’t the Japanese buy those? And, you know, support their country? Because the truth of the matter is, Japanese people love foreign goods. They buy clothes from France, handbags from Italy, Swiss watches, etc. and the very fact that these things are foreign makes them cool.
I will go on. Western Music in Japan sells almost as well as Japanese music. Let’s think about this for a second. Music in languages most Japanese people cannot understand sells nearly as well as music in their own language. Now go to Tower Records in say, for example, Mississippi. What percent of that music (not counting classical) is foreign? In Japan, even in my small town, I can buy albums by little known American bands and indie groups. But, in America, I can’t buy anything from the Japanese top 10.
Yeah, I’m going to keep going. Go to any cinema in Japan and you will see that 4 out of 5 movies playing there are not Japanese. And most of those are from America. The American movie “The Last Samurai” made more money in Japan, than any Japanese produced Samurai movie. Also one of the highest grossing movies of all time in Japan was Pearl Harbor. Yeah, Pearl Harbor.
Ok, now I will take it even one step further. How can Japan hate the American company Microsoft when all of their computers use Microsoft Windows? When all the businesses use Word, and Excel and PowerPoint? Ok, these are the industry standard and sometimes they have no choice, but why on earth is the most used chat program in Japan MSN Messenger? The Japanese don’t hate Microsoft; they just dislike the Xbox 360. They still feel bad about the original Xbox, which never delivered enough of the type of games they wanted. A system that never matched the Japanese tastes for design, marketing or games. After a time Microsoft of Japan started releasing a series of games called the Xbox World Collection. These games are simply American games put on region 2 discs. They have not been translated in any way. The only Japanese part of the game is the box and manual. I love these since I speak English and have bough quite a few of them. But how many Japanese gamers are going to buy the
And then, this year, Microsoft releases this new system with only 6 launch titles. And backwards compatibility with less than 20 original Xbox games. That is an insult. And these internet commenters have the audacity to say that the Japanese people aren’t giving an American company a chance. I think it is more of an American company not giving the Japanese a chance.
Ok, now everyone grab your Xbox controller, and turn it around. Mine says “Made in China” OK, now the Sony controller from my slim line PlayStation 2. Hmm… “Made in China”. It has been years since the PlayStation was even made in Japan.
Is Japan without racism? Not in any way. There is racism everywhere and Japan is no exception, in fact I would go as far as to say there is more racism in Japan than many other countries. But to say that this is the reason why Xbox is not selling is ignorant. Sure there are some hold-outs who will never buy American products, just like the Americans who would rather die than buy a foreign car. But in both cases they are the exceptions rather than the rule. Don’t blame the Japanese people for not buying a product that was not designed for them. It would be stupid of them to buy something that offers nothing they are interested in just for the sake of helping an American company. Give the Japanese gamers a product that meets their needs and wants and you will have another iPod on you hands.
As it stands, there are some very promising games coming up for the 360 by Japanese developers. But it might be too late, the Japanese already see the system as a failure. They should have delayed the launch until they had a strong launch lineup rather than have an early but weak launch. I spent a year of my life living in Nagasaki, Japan (before moving to Oita) and I was absolutely shocked by the amount of American goods on sale and how well they were received. If a product meets the needs and desires of the Japanese they will not care so much where it’s made. It’s happened before, it will happen again.
I completely and whole heartedly agreed when i listened to it, very cool that someone says it like it is
TakaM - 01.03.06 3:23 am
have you ever noticed, Mario and Luigi and everyone in thoses games, they arent japanese (not counting the Hot Mario Bros.) and still, they are the favorite over there (from what i heard)
Ghost - 01.03.06 3:35 am
Another great Rebel in Japan segment. If any 4CR readers are also Digg users click on the link below to digg this story so we can spread the word.
http://tinyurl.com/9uus2
Tyler - 01.03.06 3:48 am
I dont know about the rest of Japan, but here in Tokyo the Japanese are very open towards buying american merchandise. I would guess that the Japanese havent bought 360s in great numbers because there just aren’t many games that appeal to the average Japanese gamer.
synaesthesia - 01.03.06 3:53 am
Very nice. I’ve been saying the same thing about iPod v. Sony v. Xbox, but you take the argument all the way out to limits and destroy your opponents. Well argued man. You bring a lot of support for your conclusions and deliver it well. Hot.
Carl - 01.03.06 3:55 am
America is one of the most racist nations on the planet.
This surprises you? The rest of the planet has known this for… oh… a coupla centuries.
Jez Lezbro - 01.03.06 4:00 am
Yeah, great article that easily shows people who ignorant they really are.
VideoGamerJ - 01.03.06 4:20 am
I’m sure it’s a lot of reasons that add up to the crappy launch - but my wife, who’s japanese, says that the reason she thinks xbox doesn’t sell is purely cause it’s american. I’m sure it’s not bitterness though, the japanese have a strong love of their culture, society and workmanship - in that sense it’s not necessarily something against other cultures, just ‘for’ their own.
andrew - 01.03.06 4:40 am
Hehe, I just called a friend and he was eating at Freshness Burger. Didn’t know they had them in Japan, too. I love that name
Thanks for the insight, Vinnk. BTW, I’ve become a fan of Vinnk.com. Great stuff
Rumas - 01.03.06 4:43 am
Jez said: “America is one of the most racist nations on the planet.This surprises you? The rest of the planet has known this for… oh… a coupla centuries”.
I would like to respond. Jez, have you ever spent much time in a country other than the U.S.? I would suspect that you haven’t based on your comments. I have lived two years in Europe and despite the fact that I love European culture and the people, Europeans are far more xenophobic and racist than Americans. And I am not saying that they all are, but they are generally more so. You may not believe me but I don’t care. Don’t accept all propoganda at face value. The people who claim America is Amerikkka have an agenda, just remember that. Hell, you may have an agenda evident by the comment you made. Whatever.
That’s all I have to say.
shan - 01.03.06 4:50 am
I read recently on Gamespot a segment of Kanpai - which predicted an Xbox 360 failure because Microsoft was not a Japanese company.
I accepted this without thinking deeper about the potential ramifications or even critically questioning the deeper feeling behind such a sentiment. I didn’t immediately think it was racist, but it is getting harder to tell these days.
I believe views such as these are fragments of ‘orientalism’ where facts or trends are over-generalised and over-simplified. Something I became acutely aware of after studying Chinese law these past few weeks.
People tend to view the Japanese culture and society as very closed, but the opposite is true from what I’ve read of foreign visitors.
Thanks for the insightful arguments Vinnk.
Eddie - 01.03.06 5:03 am
The part about the game being in english is mute.
In the whole of europe games are in English some big titles are translated but most are in english with the manual translated
highlandcattle - 01.03.06 5:11 am
Just to let you know there are tons of japanese games in the making for the 360, a few of them look amazing and it almost makes me want one.
such as: http://www.the-magicbox.com/0512/game051229f.shtml
http://www.the-magicbox.com/0512/game051219b.shtml
annd another one i cant find right now called cry on.
Razan - 01.03.06 5:16 am
That is very true and common in Europe. But it is not true in Japan (where the English rate is far, far, far lower than that of most European countries). It had never been done before in Japan and it was a failure. And as I stated, it was regarded by many in Japan as showing that the company didn’t care enough to localize. (Though I am sure some Japanese loved it and saw it as an opportunity to brush up on their language skills). I think it is a valid point, but not the strongest one admittedly.
And yes, Andrew, the Japanese want to support their own products (as does every country), but the main point is that they will look beyond those geological distinctions if you give them a product they truly want. American companies CAN be successful if they do it right. The same with Japanese companies selling in America, the ones who do well are the ones that make something Americans want. A lot of Japanese companies have failed in the West as well.
Vinnk - 01.03.06 5:28 am
Yeah Razan, Those games look great. And when those games come out, I know I will be buying an Xbox 360. If only Microsoft had delayed the launch until these games were ready I think the Xbox would have sold far, far, better in Japan. Sadly MS has an uphill battle now.
Vinnk - 01.03.06 5:32 am
I’ve never posted here before (but I allways read the articles), but I felt it would be wrong not to post to give support to such a great article. Great work
Adelle - 01.03.06 6:17 am
In Australia I’d say a good 70% of the population hate America, but the Xbox still has more market share here than in any other country in the world. The Xbox is simply an appealing system to many people here, no one cares if it’s American or not.
chris - 01.03.06 6:19 am
Good article. Do you think Nintendo will face any similar problems in the US and Europe when it releases the Revolution seeing as they are trying to adopt a similarly short launch window? Will there be enough games to suit Western tastes or does it not matter as much this way round?
Ben - 01.03.06 6:25 am
I can vouch for what’s been said about racism in Japan. Matter of fact, it’s a source for much of the Anti-Japanese semitism in this area. But it’s not at all connected to the 360’s performance here.
BT - 01.03.06 6:50 am
Chris is right, many australians hate americans, but why do we buy the xbox? Coz it appeals to us the games in general. I belive the japanese didnt reject the 360 because it was american but because it did not have enough appeal to the consumers, and with all the bugs around i dont see why i would buy one. But of course thers that Playstation and Nintendo Fanbase.
kinship - 01.03.06 6:53 am
Hey, you’re HighlandCattle from YakYak
It’s cool to see Llamasofties on 4cr from time to time.
Rumas - 01.03.06 7:02 am
I read a few paragraphs and got the whole idea…. Don’t worry, they’re just X Box Fanboys getting upset..
Krono6 - 01.03.06 8:34 am
Europe being more racist than America? Are we willy-waving now over xenophobia?! Still, there is one point I would like to make here on that subject. Whilst it may appear to be so on the outside, most people I know personally like Americans. It’s just the Government, and Bush especially, that is hated. Somewhat of a difference there, but conversely I do know Americans who consider an afront against their President (even one as thick as Bush) to be a personal afront against themselves regardless.
Oh and as for the article itself, I can’t see anything wrong with it and fully agree with almost all of the sentiment contained within.
Mayhem - 01.03.06 8:43 am
Very thought provoking article, top notch quality.
Spence - 01.03.06 9:29 am
agree with the article what I don’t understand is why Japan only and not Asia in general? the xbox did well in Taiwan BTW although it being less prosperous and only 23 million strong it’s obviously not a major market, but it’s hardly worth avoiding. As for the other comments, in my general experience a lot of europeans, middle easteners, etc. don’t like Americans in the sense of this vague them out there i.e. the government and those “arrogant” americans you always hear about (a school here in Taiwan told me that Americans are very arrogant people etc.) as for racism while discrimination against blacks and to some extent mexicans continues, it has lessened over the years. Unfortunately studies of employment opportunities available to non-whites do generally show that some european countries (i.e. france) fare a lot worse. An african-american has a slight disadvantage when it comes to finding work in the u.s., an afro-frenchman is 50% less likely to be hired regardless of how high unemployment is. But throwing mud in people’s eyes over race is to overlook that we all got problems and that we’ve all tried various solutions. As for the other comments about Japan, I know a good amount of Japanese and in my general experience you’ll meet some that will swear that other Japanese are racist, it’s somewhat similar to Americans that blame all their countries problems on those “backwards” southern states etc. Nationalism is high in Japan (although higher in Korea), but MS should have waited till they had better games and as it stands there in it for the long haul and lastly, I don’t think any Western company has ever released a spectular system in Japan with good games ever, so it’s not to surprising that the first launch of an American system in Japan didn’t go to well, after all people were destorying Japanese cars in the U.S. in the eighties in the name of the flag and all that.
andrew - 01.03.06 10:48 am
also in the 70s long before the nes Japanese were enjoying Western pinball and pong pong and other Americans games before they took matters into their own hands and well… the rest is history. how did the 2600 do in Japan after all? was it ever releaseD?
peace,
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andrew - 01.03.06 10:50 am
This is just a rant. A well educated rant but still, a rant none the less. Why is this even on the site, its a Nintendo site. I come here for Nintendo news and stuff. You should have said the same thing except about the Gamecube in Europe and America.
You make it out that Microsoft is trying to fail in Japan, and it is completely theyre fault. They arent buying the 360 because of the failure of the first Xbox and because it isnt the latest trend (like the iPod is). They gave away a free online MMO beta of Final Fantasy XI with every 360. Ridge racers 6, Kameo and soon Dead or Alive 4. And there are lots of games in development aimed at the Japanese market.
In Japan the 360 is $331, in the US it is $400, and in the UK it is $484. Now i would say that $331 is an excellent price for such a powerful machine, especialy considering it costs microsoft $715 to make.
The 360 will be more popular than the original Xbox but wont get anywhere near Nintendo and Sony.
And by the way, the next time you choose quotes from sites make sure they are from the actual article and not from something some stupid Xbox Fanboy has wrote in the forums.
Lewigi - 01.03.06 10:51 am
Japan is unbelievably similar to post-Soviet Russia.
mitch - 01.03.06 10:53 am
I too heartidly back up Vinnk on this one : japanese people love WELL MADE foreign goods. Goods that are appealing to there taste, in fact. Hence the success of the Ipod you mentionned, not to talk about Jean’s, Mc Donald, Coke, etc…
I am a european guy in Japan, and I can tell you it really feels strange when you see young people in the streets whit jean’s and cow boy boots like in an old western movie (besides the fact they put a little japanese twist on it). But once again that should tell you how ready japanese are ready to embrace foreign cultures.
As for the comments about racism : well, I should say that every country on this planet got his share of assholes, and I am pretty sure that’s the proportions are pretty even in the end, if you really have time to lose in comparing. I, for my part, prefer focusing on nice and intelligent people : it’s somehow more satisfying to hang out with them
Anyway, I hope a lot of people will read or listen to this, it’s really true and well written.
DP - 01.03.06 11:05 am
I totaly aggree, Microsoft do not try to integrate specificity of japan market. Translation is a key process especialy for RPG game that lead japanese market
lio - 01.03.06 11:12 am
Lewigi, if the 360 was such an awesome product for Japan at such an awesome price, everyone in Japan would have ran to buy one. They didn’t. It has flopped exactly like the Xbox, for exactly the same reasons. And as Vinnk has so eloquently demonstrated, none of those reasons have anything to do with Japanese nationalism.
Pikachelsea - 01.03.06 11:33 am
>Yeah, great article that easily shows people
>who ignorant they really are.
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>VideoGamerJ - 01.03.06 4:20 am
Classic. “When you live in a glass house…”
Freshness Burger - 01.03.06 12:19 pm
Lewigi this is not strictly a “Nintendo” site. It is a comics site, it is a videogame fan site, it is a unique site. If you read a website that is exclusively filled with Nintendo content by all means do that, but 4cr isn’t it.
Great, thought-provoking article Vinnk.
Benny - 01.03.06 12:20 pm
I’ve hosted several Japanese exchange studnets. All 7 said that they didn’t get the Xbox because of it’s lack of appealing games. All of which I’ve stayed in touch with say that the 360 is no different. They need more the Dead or Alive 4 and a handfull of games that aren’t coming out for months to buy the system. Why get a 360 that’s going to have 4 games you like released in the next 6 months when you can get a PS3 or revolution that’s going to have 4 at launch that you want. This is exactly why the DS outsells the PSP by nearly 4 fold in the japanese market. It’s all about the games. Games in HD are no good if you don’t like them in standard definition to begin with.
4th reich - 01.03.06 12:29 pm
Vinnk, all I can say is hats off to you.
retro - 01.03.06 12:31 pm
Yes, Vinnk, you have successfully presented the truth behind the lame Japanese launch of the 360. But, I think that it does boil down to culture barrier, as well. I believe that perhaps Microsoft just can’t wrap their collective marketing heads around the Japanese culture. They wouldn’t be the first company, but you’d think they’d do a little more research before launching a video game system without hardly anything appealing to the Japanese gamer.
Ryan - 01.03.06 12:31 pm
Japan has its racism in ways that are not in anyway related to purchasing of consumer goods. You have had major papers run holocaust denial stories, and the downplay -in school textbooks- of historical Japanese brutality inside China are some very large issues. But I think racism is not a forefront to their culture or any other culture for that matter. I think racism comes with the territory of whatever peoples inhabit a land. In the Estados Unidos (USA), we have a “melting pot” of multiple cultures. All of these ingredients make the USA diverse; but not all the ingredients react well to each other. Thus, racism. In a lot of countries, you have very few other cultures/races living in that country. You have tourism; but tourists come and go. They are not a major part of the culture. As for America? Yes, I live in the “ignorant” South. Missouri to be exact. We’ve spawned such ignorant minds as Mark Twain. So, there you have it. Having been to practically every mainland state in the USA, I have to say that every state thinks the other states are ignorant; but only the major coastal areas get to say it the loudest. Considering the Heartland and the South FEED their loud noisy mouths, you would think they would be much more respectful than to bite the hands that feed them. The best part is the whole Red/Blue debate. Don’t these people realize that the colors assaigned to each party change every few elections? I hope those people who run around with “Blue State” pride shirts still have them when Blue = Republicans. He he.
I think Vinnk is on the money in his assessment of the Xbox 360 launch not having much aimed at Japanese gamers. EXCEPT for the fact that the Play Station Portable launched with a similar launch line-up and has risen to be modestly successful in Japan. It may be too early to call the Xbox 360 a failure. It could very well turn around, if word of mouth gets out that the system is fine and there are good games for it. I think they should try re-designing the system itsself for the Japanese market, make it smaller, release it in many colors, trim some of the features down a little to accent more attractive parts of the machine. For example, redo the entire gui, ditch the backwards compatability option in favor of letting people use the hard drive for something like.. taping some DVDs or TV shows into an MP4 format that is compatible with the iPod with Video, PSP, and Play Yan. How about emphasizing it has a base hub for those products? Upping the available Hard Drive sizes to accommodate this. For example, push out an 80GB hard drive with the ability to back up any hard drive device attached to it (like an iPod) completely. This would make the XBox 360 part of the furniture. Give it some great visualizations to use when playing back MP3, AAC, et cetra and you are set. Don’t try and sell it as strictly an internet/video game box. Can you surf the internet on your Xbox 360? How well? Can I hook up items like a printer and keyboard to the Xbox 360 and use game images from -say- Dead or Alive 4 as part of my stationary? WHY NOT?
Ah, well. That would just be my take on the subject. I personally believe there is nothing wrong with Nationalism. People who can not take any pride in their country do not deserve a country.
Philip Wesley - 01.03.06 12:38 pm
I highly doubt you could tackle a complex business issue with what seems to be a one sided arguement. Obviously the racists are assholes and whatever, but we’re all adults (or close to) so we don’t really believe everything on the message boards anyways. Pragmatically speaking I think your essay here will prolong arguements about this topic. You’ve asked questions without answers and left the air open for debate. Also you should have had somebody proofread this, I think you need to seperate some of those paragraphs - You shouldn’t introduce a new topic (like the 360) while your subject is mcdonalds. Overall I didn’t have an opinion on this before I read your article and you have not convinced me to develop one, but I think you could have taken more time writing this.
Ed - 01.03.06 1:46 pm
The makers of Alien Hominid can’t get their game published in Japan because the Japanese publishers want them to change the characters to be appeal more to Japanese consumers.
Lore - 01.03.06 2:02 pm
Plain and simple the apps weren’t there. The Japanese like different types of games and MS didn’t have them. Many are probably waiting for the PS3 release. The lack of sales shouldn’t be a suprise.
Kelly - 01.03.06 2:11 pm
Lore - And why not do so? Sometimes, a company has to change things in their product to match the sensibilities of the place they are trying to sell it in. Just makes good business sense.
Philip Wesley - 01.03.06 2:20 pm
>> Jez, have you ever spent much time in a country other than the U.S.?
Lived in Taiwan for six months. Traveled to Hong Kong, Austria, Germany, Italy. Been to 49 of the 50 states and 8 Canadian provinces, Mexico. So I’ve covered a little ground.
One thing I have done far more than most people is read up quite extensively on the history of our nation and not just the Reader’s Digest or History Channel version which is prevalent and tends to laud us as the global beacon on a hill and model for racial unity, i.e. the melting pot.
You might want to query a non-caucasian as to their experiences in America as relates to race. African-Americans routinely relate tales of discrimination from authorities, fellow citizens and are regularly dismissed as malcontents, cranks, and conspiracy theorists.
And anyone who remotely follows the ongoing atrocity in the Gulf region where we abandoned and continue to abandon millions of our fellow citizens, most of whom are non-caucasian knows that America’s longstanding racist values are alive and well. Thriving, as a matter of fact. Right now millions are being evicted, have been abandoned by FEMA, the state and federal government. Probably in your state. Probably down the block.
And don’t blame it on “our government.” As if government arises independent of us. We have the government we deserve. We are lazy, uninformed, superstitious, and apathetic. The GOP capitalizes on that.
We are the wealthiest nation in the history of our species, but we refuse to aid the poorest in our society and that is largely based on race.
So, yeah Americans will rant about Indians (taking our jobs), and blacks (with their funny cornrows), and Mexicans (why can’t they conveniently disappear after picking our fruit), and Chinese (they don’t respect civil rights like we do), and the French (they don’t bathe), and Russians (they’re imperialist… like… more than us), and those people in the Middle East who are “not like us.”
To see our fellow Americans remark in similar fashion about the Japanese regarding videogames comes as no surprise if you are informed and are able to listen to opinions outside of our own suburban comfort zone. Most people from other nations will not tell you to your face what they think about America because they are being polite, a discretion Americans do not share.
America is the most propaganda drenched society on the planet. We are swimming in PR, marketing, disinformation.
I’m curious. WHEN did you live in Europe? I’m betting it was as a teenager or child. And perhaps was it in Germany on a military base? Just a hunch. Am I wrong? Life on a base in a foreign country is life in a bubble.
Our entire national experience is life in a bubble.
Jez Lezbro - 01.03.06 2:26 pm
Enjoyed your insights above, Philip, but I’ve gotta disagree with you on Alien Homonid. Sure, product can be changed, but changing cool games like Alien Homonid, I think that’s something that shouldn’t be encouraged. Think if our favorite Japanese games were all changed to make them US friendly. Electroplankton would’ve become Xtremoplankton, for cryin out loud
Rumas - 01.03.06 2:30 pm
I believe the system was designed with Japan in mind more so then the original xbox!Only after the slew of development titles from Japan start to surface we will then be able to decide if any of the crazy racial theories are true!
hokiepokie - 01.03.06 2:40 pm
I’ll say something very racist which might explain the xbox360 sales: The Japanese are smarter and have better taste.
I’d like to support what Shan mentioned about non-US countries’ racism: Racism isn’t seen as the taboo that it is in the US. I live in a primarily Latino and Polish neighborhood (in Chicago) and there is an intricate racism among the different latin cultures and latin people seem fine with it. The only difference for second or third generation Americans is that it is more stigmatized. I think this holds true for countries that are less homogenous that the US (India/Pakistan, Iran/Iraq, Palestine/Israel, South Africa, Australia/Aboriginal people, etc). People aren’t that much different anywhere you go. Racism (which, in its true sense does not mean oppression) isn’t more or less anywhere in the world, it is just voiced differently.
polishbroadcast - 01.03.06 2:42 pm
I couldn’t agree more with the original post.
The question is not why don’t the jps buy the xbox 360 but why DO the westerners drop down 400 bucks for one of the weakest launches in history. There are no games on that system worth me dropping 400 bucks, there are no games promised in the future (that will be exclusive to the 360) worth me dropping 400 bucks now… The real question is why did westereners purchase a machine?
60Hz - 01.03.06 2:59 pm
I spent nearly 3 years in Japan. You know what I love most about Japanese Mcdonalds? On the menu above the register you’re likely to find:
Smile: 0Yen
I just love that. No worries about the people saying Japanese won’t buy XBoxes because they come from America. There are stupid people in every country, you just ran into a lot of ours (America) at once.
Sean - 01.03.06 3:13 pm
I agree that M$ has done a terrible job of making content for Japanese taste. However, look at the abysmal PS2 launch lineup, it was well over a year before there was a game that I would pay more than a dollar for. Kutaragi also makes some of the most asisine, arrogant coments I have ever heard, and the Japanese eat it up every time. He insults everyones intelligence with flat-out lies, yet everyone thinks M$ is such an evil company. Watch out for Sony & their DRM and rootkits, they’re just as evil as M$!
stan branson - 01.03.06 3:14 pm
There is only the smallest bit of truth in this article. Any idiot who thinks that the Japanese don’t like western culture, or more specificaly American, is wrong. Of course the Japenese like American stuff, I don’t think that is what anyone is trying to argue. The real debate here is that the Japanese are xenophobic about video games. This is a source of extreme national pride. The video game industry is to Japan as the computer industry is to America, with the exception that the Japaenese have yet to come to grips with the fact that it is possible for a non Japanese maker to do well in the video game market. Yes, alot of this is M$’s fault for not having a lineup, but at the same time any one who denies there is an anti non-Jap video game mentality in Japan is living in a fantasy world.
Eric - 01.03.06 6:57 pm
Who ever said Australians hate Americans! Are u nuts! I would say 70% of Australians LIKE the yanks. We strive to be so much like them we have been called “Little America” !!!
Haylonix - 01.03.06 7:18 pm
Well said. Having lived in Japan for several years, I will not say that Japan isn’t a racist country, because you can find racism there quite certainly, just like pretty much any country in the world. However, they are very warm, inviting and open minded people indeed, and the Xbox is not failing there because it’s American. It’s failing there because it’s TRASH
Robotube - 01.03.06 7:26 pm
Gaming systems are quite different than hamburgers and jeans. It is true that the Japanese buy foreign goods even over their own domestic products. Yet, gaming systems are something akin to their hometeam. McDonald’s was well established in the fast food market. The Japanese did not have anything like it: a behemoth burger joint. Same with denim pants: an original American invention. Technology is the Japanese home team. Yet, the iPod does well, and that did surprise me. And so does Windows. But, again, like McDonald’s and burgers, Windows cornered the OS market early. iPod’s did much the same with mp3 players, though they are the rarity in these comparative examples, because they were not the first mp3 players… just the best early on.
So, Nintendo cornered the gaming system market long ago with the NES. This time the Japanese set the standard. And, because their home team did it best and early, they will stick with their home team when they have the option. The 360 is an advanced system and has an online arcade gaming area. These are dominated by puzzle games, the type of games that do quite well on the Japanese market. The launch title disks in Japan, I’m not an expert on, but I do know this is the second launch MS has made for a gaming system in Japan. It would be foolish to accuse them of being ignorant of the Japanese culture… a second time around. America may have it’s racist, and we may be narcissitic as a culture, but we are above all else Capitalists. And there’s no way MS would make a second stupid mistake in Japan when money’s involved. Come on, you honestly think Bill Gates would sacrifice a dollar because he’s culturally ignorant?
There is a nationalisitic attitude going on in Japan… and it’s only because they have the option. They did gaming systems the best long ago. The Japanese people are big into technology, and outsiders, especially Americans, will be viewed as the visiting team. Americans don’t look at products that way, for the most part, but it is certainly prevalent in this department: gaming systems. It’s a horse of different color!
Kit - 01.03.06 7:31 pm
Australians (and im sure alot of other people) just dont like what the American Govt is doing. Sadly they then take it out on all Americans. We ourselves are following them blindly in everyting they do.
I think the article is spot on, If Microsoft gave them a product they want, they would buy it. This has nothing to do with xenophobia. I would say this is probably the same with most countrys.
Someone - 01.03.06 7:31 pm
“Yes, alot of this is M$’s fault for not having a lineup, but at the same time any one who denies there is an anti non-Jap video game mentality in Japan is living in a fantasy world.”
Working in the game industry for a “Jap” company, I will say that Eric is utterly clueless.
The Gamecube, 360, and PS2 are all made in China. Sony’s shareholders are predominantly non-Japanese. The CEO is a British-US dual citizen. The top-grossing territory for SCEI, the PlayStation arm of Sony, is the Americas, followed by Europe. Shadow of the Colossus was developed by Sony Japan, but the head of development world-wide is a European exec. Yet is Sony and its games still Japanese?
Gamers do not have platform loyalty. This is why platform holders must pay multi-million dollar licensing fees for 18-month exclusive rights to franchises. The 360 has no killer app franchise. No RPG’s. No mahjongg. No DOA4. There is no Japanese platform seller there.
Vinnk is entirely head-on correct here. If you look at the numbers, you will see that the Xbox, PSP, and now 360 fail in Japan for lack of games which appeal to the Japanese, period.
Japanese mass media taste is so utterly different than the US, which has no equivalent to Morning Musume, or the Japanese television drama format, or Hard Gay, or Kamen Rider, or Shonen Jump, or dating sims. It’s not nationalism. It’s aesthetics, association.
hikaru - 01.03.06 7:38 pm
There were some strong points in this which were absolutely correct, but you really cant compare food and electronics. It is a whole different area.
plasteredmonkey - 01.03.06 7:42 pm
While much of this is true, Japan is not without nationalism (not that “nationalism” is a bad thing at all), and the important thing to keep in mind is that this tends to play a much larger role in an industry that has typically been dominated by the Japanese.
In the gaming world, Japan has always been KING. There is a lot more pride in this respect, and moreover, a lot more of what they probably consider “common sense” - ie: that a Japanese company would produce a better gaming system is probably “common sense” to the average Japanese consumer. MS trying to sell the Xbox to Japan is like California trying to outsell national wines in France (or oranges in Florida, or cheese in Wisconsin…).
It’s not about racism at all, it’s about the simple attitude that “we already do this better” - and if you think this attitude doesn’t play a MAJOR role in the 360’s failure in Japan, I think you’re dead wrong.
clear - 01.03.06 7:43 pm
I think in a lot of ways you have a point, but I think the issue is a lot less cut and dry… We are talking about gamers when we talk about consoles… Gaming is not as mainstream in America as it is in Japan, and I think that there is an elitism that hasn’t been breached yet when it comes to their ideas of Japanese vs. American gaming. Come on, until Halo, the same elitism was happening in America… especially when it comes to the casual gamer. Many, many Americans still think that the Japanese do it better.
solidmercury - 01.03.06 7:54 pm
Americans tend to fall into advertisements easier. If we get told that it’s good we believe it. Not all, but most of us do. We’re also graphics hores. I know SEVERAL people that bought a 360 just because the games look better. The gameplay on most of them are horrible. The only games on it are ports, HD versions of games that could be on a current system, or games from Rare that were originaly being developed for the GC. Rare was just starting Kameo and Perfect Dark Zero when bought out by M$. Call of duty 2 is just a HD port. Dead or Alive has higher polygons, and a few new characters.
There isn’t one game on launch that had any originality. People expect more then a Xbox 1.5
4th reich - 01.03.06 8:04 pm
Well said on the defense of the Japenese people.
I’d like to see whoever made that Hirsoshima comment stand at the memorial and look at the site, walk the museum and say that again.
Moving on…..
Is it about elitism? Maybe. I don’t think anyone could argue that there’s gamers in Japan who say to themselves “I’d rather wait for the PS3 and Nintendo, why do I need an XBox?”
I don’t think their current sales strategy is wrong, Microsofts. I think they know what they need to do to truely break into the market. But I think it was…ignorant to think they could do it quickly. The 360’s going to need time to truely make it’s way into the culture. People are going to need to warm up to the idea.
It’s just like the original xbox here in the States, in my opinion. I know a lot of people who just didn’t bother when it first came out. But after a while, after it picked up steam, had some games worth while, etc, etc…then it became a force.
Just takes time…
Brian - 01.03.06 8:10 pm
The 360 was designed in part by a Japanese design firm. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/200 2276090_xboxdesign16.html So saying that the design doesn’t appeal to Japanese gamers is odd.
Dusty - 01.03.06 8:18 pm
Well put. And you didn’t even mention the thousands of games available in Japan already. It puts the US game stores to shame. Who needs a console with such a limited lineup.
BTW Everyone is racist.
Dave - 01.03.06 8:29 pm
National allegiances are lame.
Dogtown - 01.03.06 8:30 pm
We do too have an equivalent to Hard Gay, namely Gay Pimp. I’m sure there are others who are a little more underground.
But I’ll admit that the Japanese comic idiom of a strange person accosting random people on the street is not as common over here. We did have a Comedy Central show that featured a number of bizarre improv people doing exactly that, but I don’t think it lasted very long.
raindog - 01.03.06 8:37 pm
Hey I am from Los Angeles, CA, USA and all the stupid comments you heard about, I hear them a lot over here. Its Just extreme fanboys that wont admit to it. Its just that they dont have any actual facts for themselfs, so they go for whatever they can throw at you. Honors for you pointing out what it true adn what is fanboyism.
Magus - 01.03.06 8:41 pm
not moss burger, that is MOS burger. it means three words - Mountain, Ocean, Sunshine.
they supply high-quality meal and pretty rich meal than McDonalds.
anon - 01.03.06 8:50 pm
Considering the success of the MSX in Japan, I have never understood this xenophobic idea myself. Sure, the MSX was designed by Microsoft Japan members, but it still was freaking Microsoft.
I mean, what about The Incredibles being the number one selling animated DVD in Japan for 2005? What about constant other examples of this type? I don’t think it’s ever been the real issue here… perhaps in the future the 360 will gain more success since it has upcoming titles that appeal to more traditional Japanese buying sensibilities, but who can really say.
And man, this really brought out some morons.
Tony - 01.03.06 9:03 pm
What a spaz.
Chuck - 01.03.06 9:12 pm
A wonderful article, Vinnk. I always hear this sort of generalizations about foreign people. I especially hate those about the Japanese, because they’re great people and I like them a lot. Imho, Japan produces the most advanced and innovative videogames in the world, and it’s an awful thing to think that they are such stupid nationalists. I don’t own a 360 so I can’t say if it sucks, but if the Japanese aren’t buying it it’s just because they don’t like it. I respect their opinion and btw I do not intend to buy anything from Microsoft, nor from Sony. These companies don’t innovate, they just make the same things over and over again. I don’t want photo-realism, I don’t f***ing want better textures, a better resolution or high definition. I don’t need quad-core processors or supercomputers. Gameplay is what really matters, and I could play Super Mario Bros. a thousand times and never get bored. You can have a PSP with all its wonderful features, but without good games it will be little more than one of those horrible N-Gages. The Nintendo DS rocks!! With PCs it’s the same: you can have a Xeon or an Itanium in your PC, but if it runs Windows it will always be crappy and unreliable. This is why people buy Macs.
Moof - 01.03.06 9:22 pm
Thank you everyone for your comments. And I apoligise for the writing style, this was never meant to be a post, it is a transcript of what I said during a podcast so it was never spoken with paragraph breaks in mind.
And Anon, you are right, it is MOS Burger. Sorry for the typo. And yeah, their meal sets are quite good.
Vinnk - 01.03.06 10:08 pm
Well said.
My Friend
Rory - 01.03.06 10:16 pm
I love how such a straightforward article offering an opposing opinion to that of the majority’s (at least in some areas of the ‘Net) brings out all of these huge comments about which country is the most racist, thanks for the laugh, guys.
Before anyone starts spewing garbage about Japanese ‘nationalism’, need I remind you we only had a handful of breakthrough Japanese hits here in America? I think Katamari Damacy is the first uniquely Japanese game that has really captured such a wide audience and following in America; you know its had an impact when friends who buy Xbox 360’s just for an updated Madden comment on how fun it is.
Truth of the matter is, Nintendo, Sony, and an inumerable amount of 3rd party Japanese developers do not realease a slew of Japanese games a year in America for the simple fact they wont sell well, because, on a whole, the Americna audience doesnt take to marathon running games or gambling games as much as the Japanese do. So how can we expect them to embrace our beloved first person shooters and sports titles? Such thinking is backwards, hypocritical, and above all, shallow.
Kyoji - 01.03.06 10:34 pm
Is it possible that it isn’t selling because it IS an American console? Buying a burger, purse or watch is entirely different than buying an AMERICAN ELECTRONIC DEVICE in Japan. Sony and Nintendo are the leaders, period. I’m sure we wouldn’t use Sony OS or NintendOs if they existed. And what’s the big deal with the games being in English? I don’t seem to recall an outcry when DOA3 hit with subtitles and not one single word of English. If it is good enough for us, it’s good enough for them. When you dislike something for the sheer fact of disliking it, you’re nothing more than a puppet.
Sumo Attuquayefio - 01.03.06 10:53 pm
@Sumo Attuquayefio: If you re-read the post, I think you will find all of your questions answered. The iPod is an American electronic device that sells fantastically in Japan. As for the World Collection (which I admit is one this posts weakest arguments), there are no subtitles either. I consider subtitles to be translation. I stated that the game had not been translated in any way. (Apart from the box and game manual). And I don’t dislike the Xbox. I own a Japanese Limited Edition Kasumi Blue Xbox and love Panzer Dragoon, Jet Set Radio Future, Metal Slug 3 and DOA Ultimate. I am sure in the future when there are titles that I like (and some upcoming games look fantastic); I will buy the Xbox 360. I am sorry if that is not the puppet response you had hoped for.
Vinnk - 01.03.06 11:14 pm
Ya my post will get lost in all of this mess but I just want to say, yes thank you for speaking the truth about american people. Many people are just bias to their country and see no other way.
Phil - 01.03.06 11:35 pm
No, it was what I expected.
Sumo Attuquayefio - 01.03.06 11:38 pm
I’m a Japanese in U.S. I was wondering why Xbox360 is not successful in Japanese market, but I was convinced by this article. I was like, “Yeah, that’s right!”.
K - 01.03.06 11:45 pm
Jez, for your information I was 25 years old and I lived on my own in Poland. I feel sorry that you think so poorly about the U.S. You mentioned U.S. propoganda; I think you have succombed to the leftist propoganda of the DNC. If that is the case I pitty you.
Shan - 01.04.06 12:39 am
America needs to wake up and realize their games are nothing but bullshit. PROPAGANDA
Sam - 01.04.06 1:18 am
I will note one thing, all those products have no real Japanese equivelant. iPod versus Japanese MP3 players would seem to be a good comparison, but unless a Japanese MP3 version of Apple iTunes exists, then the comparison is invalidated. Other examples demonstrate the strange American fetish held by the Japanese, ie Levis et al, but gaming consoles do not fall into that category since the gaming console is considered to be a Japanese invention despite Ralph Baer who has become video game console uber-trivia.
As to Japanese racism, yeah, it exists and is much more closeted than it was 60 years ago, but sixty years ago slavery would’ve had the moral high ground compared to Japanese racism and the improvements have been huge.
Kalroy
kalroy - 01.04.06 1:19 am
Ha ha!, wana sell X-Box360 in Japan? one title: Metal gear solid 4!
Sewje - 01.04.06 1:25 am
It’s even worse than not releasing games which cater to the Japanese market actually, they didn’t even release many of he games that are available for the western releases.
In North America and in Europe Microsoft published three games themselves, all by British developers (and therefore presumably developed in English first), one was Perfect Dark Zero (a first-person shooter), one was Kameo (an adventure game) and one was Project Gotham Racing 3 (a racing game). These were all popular choices in the west and only Perfect Dark Zero belonged to a genre which doesn’t fare well in the Japanese market. So which one do they localise in time for the launch in Japan? Perfect Dark Zero. The other launch titles with the except of Ridge Racer 6 (which wasn’t as well recieved by critics as Project Gotham) weren’t very strong titles.
Craig - 01.04.06 1:30 am
Having lived the last 15 years of my life as a gaming foreigner in Japan I feel qualified to say that Vinnk has hit the nail right on the head with this rant. Very nice job!
Pod2Peer.Bryan - 01.04.06 1:39 am
Here are my thoughts
1) they can;t get enuff of PS2 why upgrade to Xbox 360?
2) Most jap games are made by Japanese .. most are still busy creating games for ps2 and plus there is only a limited amt of developers.
3) Americans games can never complete with jap games house in speed, graphics, storyline and cuteness. Technology will not win the race, it’s the J factor for good games.
4) Jap girls are so cute (nothing to do with xbox360)
5) I have a xbox , price point is now wrong, why would a normal person pay SGD 780 for a xbox360.. a xbox is going for next to nothing now (they giving free if i subscribe SCV cable vision)
6) American hype.. and Microsoft haters vs Playstation fans and devoted gamers.
7) If you truely want the market, wait a couple of years and try to buy all the japanese game houses.
8) Japan is pretty much close system, many countries are learning from them not the other way round.
I am not japanese but Singaporean, i admire the way things are done in Japan, it’s absolutely cute and perfect.
Ivan Tan - 01.04.06 1:40 am
The problem is they’re probably all kids who are ignorant and just blab about whatever is on their mind. They think they’re funny by using such terms. Anyways, nice blog.
Gloc9 - 01.04.06 1:47 am
Excellent article Vinnk. Rebel in Japan is always my favorite segment in the podcast, keep up the great insightful segments. I’m glad this article got some exposure on Digg and what not. Take care.
robotplague - 01.04.06 1:47 am
And when the PS3 is released it will sell because it is a Sony product, with games that cater to the Japanese. The PS2 had no useful features out of the box, EVENTUALLY they got a hard drive,kind of, and the weak dial-up connection allowed you to play text games online, not exactly Xbox Live, but fun if you liked to type. But I’m sure that Sony learned some hard lessons and may actually include SOME sort of storage and maybe even built-in networking abilities in the PS3 and the Japanese people will buy it and be proud of it and there is NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT! There is nothing wrong with nationalism, citizens have a right to be proud of and even biased about thier country. The Xbox didn’t focus enough on the Japanese market, and with poor sales there I doubt if there will be any effort to make Japanese focused titles. Oh well, they will have the PS3 to play and everyone will be happy.
RCB - 01.04.06 1:55 am
“The Gamecube, 360, and PS2 are all made in China. Sony’s shareholders are predominantly non-Japanese. ”
Hikaru, so many Hondas are made in the US of predominantly US parts, but… Japanese. Jeep and Dodge owned by a German company, but…..American. Nike? Asian sweatshops, but…American. Inventor of the home video game console…American. First home video game consoles…American. Video game consoles, however…Japanese.
Nintendo changed history by making the video game console a Japanese cultural invention in the same way that the Nazis (not meant to be a comparitive to the Japanese here) “invented” the jet engine and jet aircraft (though I’m sure many Brits know better).
It’s entirely perception.
For me the XBox won over the PS2 for software reasons (and I don’t doubt the same kind of reason played a part in japan) the PS2 never had a “real” RPG ala Morrowind and all the others were available for both systems. The software excuse is a non-issue with the 360 because their are no japanese games for the PS3, it doesn’t exist yet, and I’m sure japanese gamers are quite familliar with the Japanese games made by Japanese gamemakers that will be coming out for the 360 which outnumber the announced ones for the PS3.
So considering that more Japanese oriented RPGs will be out for the 360 this year than the PS3, the same racing games, probably better shooters, and almost certainly better online services I can’t see the software excuse for the 360 not selling in Japan being a valid reason (though quite legitimate for the XBox). I guess the argument could be made that the Japanese don’t trust Japanese game makers to make good Japanese games for the 360 (despite the legendary pedigree of those game makers) but that also rings hollow.
Incidentally, loved Kamen Rider, Inazuman, Zaboga, Kikaida, Rainbowman, Ikkyu-san, Abarenbo no Shogun, Toyama no Kinsan, and yeah (hate to admit it) Robocon. Grew up with them in the 70’s here in the US, as did all my childhood friends. Even got to see the live Kikaida show down at the big arena downtown (rocked btw).
kalroy - 01.04.06 2:09 am
>>>America is one of the most racist nations on the planet
Stop. Will you. The US has the same number of small minded people as any other place on the planet. There is just more races living closer together. Kindly park you hatred of another corner of the earth (in this case hate of the US) at the door with all the rest of the irrational.
Microsoft botched the launch here in Tokyo not because the are americans, they are just ….well…Microsoft.
Jay Menna - 01.04.06 3:22 am
Here’s why the Japanese didn’t buy Xbox 360’s:
http://www.themushroomkingdom.net/images/j-e/smrpg_bus.gif
http://www.pspupdates.com/hero59.jpg
http://neo95.ifrance.com/final%20fantasy%20x.jpg
There’s none of this crazy garbage! You have to love it.
Lavarock - 01.04.06 3:39 am
Great read!
I wonder how many 4crebellions own a Xbox360?
I sure don’t I thougt it was intresting until I played the games Call of Duty2 very nice but I can buy tons of FPS on my old console, Kameo nice graphics on a HD-TV but the story is not that good. The only game I want is Condemed but i not buying a console for one game, like the PSP I want Metal Gear Ac!d Here in Sweden they allmost cost the same
NICK: Is there a update on the dirty secreat to HD-TV?
Every country as there idiots, try not to judge the country because of them!
Stop racist comments even if they are partly “joke”.
Ivan Tan: “Jap girls are so cute”
This was the best comment & I agree!
Kenny - 01.04.06 4:02 am
This is one of the greatest articles I ever read in my entire life!
What I would be interested in - how did this “scene” came to japan? All those places with arcade-games like House of the Dead, Dancing Games, Horse Riding Games and so on …
Feel free to email me about this gaming evolution to marcbosch@xbox3000.de
If somebody answers quick enough I’ll add it to the January Show of XBox3000 TV
Best regards,
Marc
Marc - 01.04.06 4:23 am
not to mention the willingness to pay $8 for a budweiser when a good old asahi is $5
bill - 01.04.06 5:45 am
I was in Tokyo two years ago and the amount of XBox games available in some of the more popular videogames stores in Akihabara (leaving aside their fit to Japanese tastes) was miserable. After seeing that landscape I understood that buying an Xbox in Japan was wasting your money. And I do own an Xbox.
elmimmo - 01.04.06 7:12 am
Kalroy wrote:
> unless a Japanese MP3 version of Apple iTunes exists, then the comparison is invalidated
Japanese have been buying songs via their mobile phones (which make yours look like a piece of worthless metal) way before the iTunes music store existed in the US (not to say Japan). They have been loudly starving for it.
elmimmo - 01.04.06 7:19 am
i aksed my japanese nephew who loves gaming and is 10 years old if he wanted an x-box for x-mas he asked “what’s an x-box?” until people here especially kids actually know what an xbox is they will never sell any…i suggest a few key product placements or an exclusive deal with pokimon on dragon ball games…that stuff is like crack for japanese kids
barnaby - 01.04.06 8:44 am
I experienced the reverse problem working for a Japanese firm trying to sell stuff in the US. They insisted on duplicating what worked in Japan, as they were sure it would be successful in the US. It wasn’t. After loosing much time and money, they got a new boss, changed their ways and are now doing much better.
Also, in the US at least, isn’t one of the bigger selling points of the XBOX the Live service? Given the Japanese preference for RPG’s, I would imagine this isn’t a huge item for them. In Korea, they love the network games…
NORTIUS - 01.04.06 12:31 pm
That was a great editorial.
lstr - 01.04.06 12:44 pm
Well said. I agree totally.
Anastasia - 01.04.06 12:57 pm
Brilliant piece.
Jonathan - 01.04.06 1:26 pm
pearl harbor is the highest grosing movie ever ……….roflmao
big boy - 01.04.06 3:24 pm
Barnaby - I doubt Nintendo would ever let MS get anywhere near Pokemon since Nintendo owns the franchise.
polishbroadcast - 01.04.06 3:25 pm
:o
Stand and deliver Vinnk! Thank you a million times for one of the few intelligent remarks about the Xbox 360 in Japan. I had been a reader of the blog “DS Update” till I started seeing a high increase in Xbox players coming over and bad mouthing the japanese culture.
I have friends who are japanese, I just celebrated Shogatsu with them.
(Incredible food BTW!) So hearing those comments just drove me to sever
any more ties to the site . . which had done very little to stop the racism.
Why so much hate? It’s just a game console!
~ LILY S.
Lily S. - 01.04.06 5:35 pm
>> Kindly park you hatred of another corner of the earth (in this case hate of the US) at the door with all the rest of the irrational.
Hatred is killing 30,000 Iraqis to steal their oil. Hatred is abandoning millions of American citizens and then refusing to help them in the Gulf.
Hatred is blaming the messenger when you don’t like the message.
Notice how much of this conversation ultimately ended up being a discussion about Japenese racism. The initial post was about disparaging remarks made by Americans about the Japanese. Rather than address that issue at all, many of the comments here turned the conversation into an indictment of Japan (a classic schoolyard version of “well, HE did it first.”) Or the other tactic used is a “well, everybody does it,” i.e. the whole planet is racist so American racism isn’t that bad.
No.
Everybody doesn’t do it.
America, unique among all nations, is noteworthy for the special arrogance and complete disregard it has for cultures and viewpoints, religious, political (and yes, game related) which are not its own.
You might not hear that on this site, but if you ask that question outside of our American bubble, you’ll hear my view supported overwhelmingly.
To call that hard reality hatred only buttresses my assertion.
Jez Lezbro - 01.04.06 6:29 pm
Another outstanding Rebel in Japan segment. Keep up the good work.
ChrisBravoTown - 01.04.06 6:40 pm
I think it’s you who are pathetic, my small-minded friend.
AdamBot™ - 01.04.06 6:40 pm
Well, yeah. If you CHANGED the xbox 360 to be NOT CRAP and have GOOD GAMES, then I might buy it aswell. It’s a strategy that would not only work in Japan, but on the global scale.
Touch FuzZy, Get DizZy - 01.04.06 7:53 pm
I totally agree that Japan wouldn’t hesitate to pick it up, not for a heartbeat, if it could offer the final fantasys, metal gears, etc. They reject it purely based on the product it is.
Touch FuzZy, Get DizZy - 01.04.06 7:59 pm
True the PS2 had a trite line up but it could play DVD’s and thus it sold. Plus RPG’s were forthcoming… what RPG’s were there on the original XBOX? Thats like buying a system in the US that won’t have a madden on it… who would buy it?
60Hz - 01.04.06 9:32 pm
I did buy a system without Madden. The Dreamcast! Sadly, we know how well that did.
Vinnk - 01.04.06 9:55 pm
By the way, 4cr did not edit my original post. I had a brain fart. My bad.
Jez Lezbro - 01.05.06 3:08 am
“Who ever said Australians hate Americans! Are u nuts! I would say 70% of Australians LIKE the yanks. We strive to be so much like them we have been called “Little America” !!! ”
Me, and most other Aussies. I bet you are from QLD? Around here the US is despised and with good reason. I think Jez’s first post summed it all up.
Skyline R32 - 01.05.06 3:45 pm
werd dude. werd.
victortrash - 01.05.06 7:44 pm
Japan, America, Australia, they are all very racist countries. And everyone who is opposed to racism will catch themselves subconciously thinking racist thoughts on occasion too. It’s human nature. We’re evil!
That does not prevent people from buying another countries product, especially japan. the lame-ass FPSes, sports and racing games that play exactly the way they did in the ps1/n64 era (and weren’t even popular in Japan then) are why Japan, rightly, rejects the xbox. If only the rest of the world, particularly my country, had such discerning taste.
And I don’t know